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curler2014
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What would happen if Team Canada ever finished last?
For the love of god this is a beaten horse. Team Canada is always the winning team from the prior year...so even if the current Team Canada finishes 12th (good luck to that ever happening in the first place), the winner is the new Team Canada and technically finished 1st.
Team Canada and Host Province will never be relegated. It's only been said about 1000 times on here, but here's to 1001.
Get educated.
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For the love of god this is a beaten horse. Team Canada is always the winning team from the prior year...so even if the current Team Canada finishes 12th (good luck to that ever happening in the first place), the winner is the new Team Canada and technically finished 1st.
So Team Canada can be first in last in the same season. Sounds like CCA bureaucratic logic.
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curler2014
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So Team Canada can be first in last in the same season. Sounds like CCA bureaucratic logic.
No...it makes sense. The winning team comes back as Team Canada...the winner of last years event. So how can they be relegated? Plus, it will never happen so long as the majority of the provinces/territories make the main event. No way in heck Team Canada is going to have the worst record below BC, QUE, PEI, NS, NB (NL womens).
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| 02-18-15 06:33PM |
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misty1
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so if the round robin ended now British Columbia would be relegated
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| 02-18-15 06:43PM |
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gmay48
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if the winner of the scotties disbands, second place team takes over.
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| 02-19-15 07:27AM |
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curler2014
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Re: Relegation from the other side
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http://thechronicleherald.ca/sports...ancing-to-brier
Interesting perspective from the other side of the relegation dilemma.
Do what most teams do and have fundraisers to support the family travel costs. There are ways, but just like their curling, they don't want to try hard enough. Hand outs. Imagine if the CCA didn't pay for the teams travels (just like every other national sporting body doesn't pay for the teams to get there).
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| 02-19-15 12:10PM |
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mcgregorm89
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so what happens if team canada disbands - or the bottom 4 teams decide not to send someone to protest relegation ..
will they let the highest money winner in - or would it be the sponsors pick like in golf ... Tims could have a roll up the rim win spot -- better than a car !
trying to get "someone" going - but i dont favor relegation obviosly
What if team Canada disbands, That's already happened in the brier. The runner up is Team Canada and the other 14 have to qualify through play downs. If the bottoms teams don't send any one, im sure at least one would.
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| 02-19-15 12:18PM |
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bianc
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What happens if 3 teams tie for last place? And they all beat each other. Is there a playoff for relegation or is a draw to the button? A draw to the button seems silly if it means going to relegation or not.
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Re: Re: Relegation from the other side
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Do what most teams do and have fundraisers to support the family travel costs. There are ways, but just like their curling, they don't want to try hard enough.
How come you're such a jerk?
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| 02-19-15 02:11PM |
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A draw to the button seems silly if it means going to relegation or not.
I hear ya, but there is a solution for not having your fate come down to a draw to the button: win more games
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| 02-19-15 02:17PM |
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mcgregorm89
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Isn't relegation based on performance at the past two Scotties or brier or was that just to decide relegation for the first time. The CCA could have given out a little more information about relegation, unless they also have no clue and are just playing it by year.
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| 02-19-15 02:30PM |
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misty1
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so with quebec winning over nova scotia today and BC losing to newfoundland that seals it. BC will be relegated
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| 02-19-15 03:19PM |
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dugless_zone 13
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Originally posted by curler2014
For the love of god this is a beaten horse. Team Canada is always the winning team from the prior year...so even if the current Team Canada finishes 12th (good luck to that ever happening in the first place), the winner is the new Team Canada and technically finished 1st.
Team Canada and Host Province will never be relegated. It's only been said about 1000 times on here, but here's to 1001.
Get educated.
actually the team that wins would become Team Canada the following year and assume the position that the previous Team Canada finished which would be last and have to play its way in. Whomever wins assumes the title of team Canada as well as the position the previous team Canada finished the year prior. Do you think the CCA is going to tell some team that finished ahead of Canada the previous year they are out so a lower ranked team can take their place. Can you say huge lawsuit.
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| 02-19-15 03:30PM |
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dugless_zone 13
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and it could happen. Say, as weve seen before at these events, the flu hits and Team Canada cant field a team for games ( cant dress three players because they are too sick). Next thing you know they are last and relegated to the play in event the next year. It could happen
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| 02-19-15 03:43PM |
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mcgregorm89
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and it could happen. Say, as weve seen before at these events, the flu hits and Team Canada cant field a team for games ( cant dress three players because they are too sick). Next thing you know they are last and relegated to the play in event the next year. It could happen
No team Canada is the past champion of the event, they can never be relegated, if Homan loses the title this year she goes back to Ontario and the winner is team Canada. Say Alberta wins it, Sweeting is team Canada, is not required to do Alberta play downs and Homan is now required to win Ontario. Why is this so difficult to understand. If anything the home province of team Canada should be relegated.
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mcgregorm89
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Can you say huge lawsuit.
Huge lawsuit against the CAA because you lose that pretty much goes against all of curling etiquette.
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| 02-19-15 04:23PM |
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nelsosi
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No team Canada is the past champion of the event, they can never be relegated, if Homan loses the title this year she goes back to Ontario and the winner is team Canada. Say Alberta wins it, Sweeting is team Canada, is not required to do Alberta play downs and Homan is now required to win Ontario. Why is this so difficult to understand. If anything the home province of team Canada should be relegated.
So, hypothetically, if Team Canada finishes 12th one year, who gets relegated instead? The team in 11th?
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mcgregorm89
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So, hypothetically, if Team Canada finishes 12th one year, who gets relegated instead? The team in 11th?
I guess, but I don't know for sure. Again I think even the CCA has no clue how relegation is going to work. Hopefully they realize how bad relegation will fail.
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| 02-19-15 04:54PM |
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dugless_zone 13
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Originally posted by mcgregorm89
No team Canada is the past champion of the event, they can never be relegated, if Homan loses the title this year she goes back to Ontario and the winner is team Canada. Say Alberta wins it, Sweeting is team Canada, is not required to do Alberta play downs and Homan is now required to win Ontario. Why is this so difficult to understand. If anything the home province of team Canada should be relegated.
there is no past champion at the Scotties or the Brier, There is Team Canada and the winner assumes the title of such as well as the position of the previous teams results. Just as the provincial team, say BC, that is the team that finishes last is relegated, it is the team that qualifies the next year for BC that has to play in.
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| 02-19-15 05:03PM |
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mcgregorm89
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there is no past champion at the Scotties or the Brier, There is Team Canada and the winner assumes the title of such as well as the position of the previous teams results. Just as the provincial team, say BC, that is the team that finishes last is relegated, it is the team that qualifies the next year for BC that has to play in.
The winner assumes team Canada, since when does champion not mean the same as the winner? Team Canada was created to market the Scotties better but its not needed anymore, especially in the brier.
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dugless_zone 13
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winning the Brier or the Scotties now just guarantees that you return the following year as Team Canada and do not have to play down in your province to get there. You still have to assume the finishing results of the association you represent, so a last place Team Canada would be relegated
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mcgregorm89
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Originally posted by dugless_zone 13
winning the Brier or the Scotties now just guarantees that you return the following year as Team Canada and do not have to play down in your province to get there. You still have to assume the finishing results of the association you represent, so a last place Team Canada would be relegated
So you represent the CCA, why would they relegate their own team.
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Deucey
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Originally posted by dugless_zone 13
winning the Brier or the Scotties now just guarantees that you return the following year as Team Canada and do not have to play down in your province to get there. You still have to assume the finishing results of the association you represent, so a last place Team Canada would be relegated
Why are you guys arguing over something that's never going to happen?
Also Team Canada wasn't added just for marketing purposes. It's a way to get one more good team in the event.
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