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Ajay
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It seems to me that probably 90plus percent of our posts on these forums are critical or negative about someone or something. Without that there would be very little participation , if any. That's the Canadian way.

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ml is kind of the trump of cz

the mean and cruel stuff essentially detracts from his acceptance - if he deleted two words a post it would eliminate 99% of the complaints and cz would be a better place

its the anonymous nature of posting that results in 100% of the abusive posts - anyone that made mean , rude , and offensive comments under their real name would be fired, ostrasized, or their own failings would be exposed ...

ml remembers the old days of the wpg tribunes jack matty matheson who purposely took ridiculous opinions occisionally , making scathing attacks to create controversy - it worked for him.

no one much remembers matty. - they do remember jimmy coleman who achieved his rank in the hall of fame by being clever and whimsical

if ml is to achieve a star on the cz posting sheet of fame he should use his twilight years to post with a littlle more dignity ... he is WAY better than he was 5 years ago ...

trump too , has an opportunity to reform immigration protocol, bring jobs back to America , eliminate the $22 trillion debt, and keep the world safe from wars - unless he changes and stops calling out judges , making loudmouth comments and acting superior and pompous ad nauseum and ruling like a dictator - he will be an ineffective president and will be considered an azhol by 99% of the worlds population - 1% will see themselves in him and post on zerohedge like morons , supporting him mostly by being rude to other posters. - --- remember pence would be worse - he thinks he is Gods prophet

easy choice -

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Originally posted by fresca
ml is kind of the trump of cz

the mean and cruel stuff essentially detracts from his acceptance - if he deleted two words a post it would eliminate 99% of the complaints and cz would be a better place

its the anonymous nature of posting that results in 100% of the abusive posts - anyone that made mean , rude , and offensive comments under their real name would be fired, ostrasized, or their own failings would be exposed ...

ml remembers the old days of the wpg tribunes jack matty matheson who purposely took ridiculous opinions occisionally , making scathing attacks to create controversy - it worked for him.

no one much remembers matty. - they do remember jimmy coleman who achieved his rank in the hall of fame by being clever and whimsical

if ml is to achieve a star on the cz posting sheet of fame he should use his twilight years to post with a littlle more dignity ... he is WAY better than he was 5 years ago ...

trump too , has an opportunity to reform immigration protocol, bring jobs back to America , eliminate the $22 trillion debt, and keep the world safe from wars - unless he changes and stops calling out judges , making loudmouth comments and acting superior and pompous ad nauseum and ruling like a dictator - he will be an ineffective president and will be considered an azhol by 99% of the worlds population - 1% will see themselves in him and post on zerohedge like morons , supporting him mostly by being rude to other posters. - --- remember pence would be worse - he thinks he is Gods prophet

easy choice -



I'm not a yuge Trump supporter but his presidency, however long it lasts will be a true test for the American character.

Many journalists, radio & tv hosts had nervous breakdowns when it was clear Donny Smallhands had TKO'd Hilary Hipster Clinton - whether he injected the democratic nominee with nerve gas or somesuch, that's another question!

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quote:
Originally posted by Ajay
It seems to me that probably 90plus percent of our posts on these forums are critical or negative about someone or something. Without that there would be very little participation , if any. That's the Canadian way.


Agree, but this essentially has nothing to do with simply

being critical about something or somebody, and it's certainly

has nothing to do about any elite curler's need to be

defended by some poster nerd.

I'm sorry, but I find it offensive when M.L. posts crude,

rude, mean-spirited, tasteless comments about curlers such

as:

--- "McCarville may not be glamorous.."
--- " Homan is mealy-mouthed "
--- " Lisa was either gassed or.."
--- " Shannon, The Undertaker ."
--- " Don't think they Will Soil Themselves like Jones did".

Is this the kind of language we're looking forward to?

I hope not!

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34,000+ Posts on this CZ Thread

That's an amazing accomplishment for any CZ thread; especially a 2017 ONT Provincials . . . .

. . . . and only a smattering (handful) from the usual suspects of Haters, Snitches, Nail-Biters & Mouth-Breathers!

Not to mention the perversely thin-skinned prior poster with under 45 posts in the 15 year history of Curling Zone.

Like to know where I said Krista McCarville isn't glamorous. Methinx there were a couple "alternative facts" tossed in to help a weak argument.

I admit to calling Shannon K, The Undertaker on 1 occasion - after she literally buried all comers in the Alberta playdowns. As for comparing Homan taking charge of the Ontario Scotties vs. Jones, who 'Soiled the ice in Charleswood' - I've heard worse - far worse, right here on this her web-site!

Probably half the personal attacks launched at yours truly 5 to 10 times worse than anything I've written on CZ.

In fairness, a low-posting troglodyte who rarely posts on things pertaining to our sport has little to no risk whatsoever in launching into vicious tirades, much akin to road rage. Gerry has only pulled a couple cards over the years - allowing us to self-monitor the site. For the most part it works well.

But the mouth-breathers get bent out of shape when playdowns occur. They kinda follow the mouth-breathing troll's instruction booklet - haplessly trying to spurn a flame war on the site which will either cause chaos or cause damage to the site. Frankly, I think hackers are somewhat more stable people.

My refusal to engage in flame wars, to engage in their craft of personal attacks and vagrancy must be so disappointing to these types of individuals.

THIS IS CURLING. IF someone is glum after a shot - so be it. If someone else is ebullient let it happen. Restrictions on emotions have a bad track record in history. Look at Germany circa 1933 to 1945.

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Fortunately for me, I am not smart enough to understand much of what ML says.

On a happy note, looks like it will be another couple of months before people suggest Glenn Howard is washed up and should retire.

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It is entertaining to read the old bed****ters dementiated, rude and ignorant posts. I laugh at his idiocy.

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Tried and tested posting style.

The depraved ones always crawl out from under their rock and self-identify!

Never fails! lol

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C'mon Manitoba's Idiot you got better than that don't ya??

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quote:
Originally posted by Deliverer


Agree, but this essentially has nothing to do with simply

being critical about something or somebody, and it's certainly

has nothing to do about any elite curler's need to be

defended by some poster nerd.

I'm sorry, but I find it offensive when M.L. posts crude,

rude, mean-spirited, tasteless comments about curlers such

as:

--- "McCarville may not be glamorous.."
--- " Homan is mealy-mouthed "
--- " Lisa was either gassed or.."
--- " Shannon, The Undertaker ."
--- " Don't think they Will Soil Themselves like Jones did".

Is this the kind of language we're looking forward to?

I hope not!


If your post is not a joke, it is laughable.
Honestly.

The only phrase that I've had a problem with from M.L. was the recent 'Lisa was either gassed, or' referenced to above. If the intention was to suggest that the curler was possibly either drunk or high on something, then that is unacceptable. It is getting way too deep in the area of personal insults.
But that is the only thing I've seen from M.L. that has crossed the line in my 5 years or so of reading this message board.

If you and others are truly offended by the other benign phrases you quoted above, and by monikers like 'Mean Girls', etc., you belong either at the head of the 'Political Correctness' party, or with others who possess little to no comprehension of what is truly offensive in life, and who simply try to create problems where no problem exists, simply in order that they get attention.
People who feel 'better' about themselves by stepping on others deserve each other's company. But it would be appreciated if you'd spare the rest of us your company.

It's very sad that some people are so personally insecure today that everything seems to 'offend' them. This has led to the disastrous rise of 'political correctness' - which is a classic case of the 'cure' being far worse than the illness it claims - falsely - to remedy.

While you criticize M.L. for very benign comments, you, meanwhile have taken shots at M.L., called him juvenile, insulting names, complimented others who do the same, and encouraged others to insult, vilify, and belittle him. You (and certain others of your ilk) have thus contributed material on this message board which is far more unacceptable and objectionable than anything that M.L. writes.

Wow...

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Originally posted by On The Nose

If your post is not a joke, it is laughable.
Honestly.

The only phrase that I've had a problem with from M.L. was the recent 'Lisa was either gassed, or' referenced to above. If the intention was to suggest that the curler was possibly either drunk or high on something, then that is unacceptable. It is getting way too deep in the area of personal insults.
But that is the only thing I've seen from M.L. that has crossed the line in my 5 years or so of reading this message board.

If you and others are truly offended by the other benign phrases you quoted above, and by monikers like 'Mean Girls', etc., you belong either at the head of the 'Political Correctness' party, or with others who possess little to no comprehension of what is truly offensive in life, and who simply try to create problems where no problem exists, simply in order that they get attention.
People who feel 'better' about themselves by stepping on others deserve each other's company. But it would be appreciated if you'd spare the rest of us your company.

It's very sad that some people are so personally insecure today that everything seems to 'offend' them. This has led to the disastrous rise of 'political correctness' - which is a classic case of the 'cure' being far worse than the illness it claims - falsely - to remedy.

While you criticize M.L. for very benign comments, you, meanwhile have taken shots at M.L., called him juvenile, insulting names, complimented others who do the same, and encouraged others to insult, vilify, and belittle him. You (and certain others of your ilk) have thus contributed material on this message board which is far more unacceptable and objectionable than anything that M.L. writes.

Wow...



Appreciate your post. Very pleased you understand the meaning of words and the use of nuance with a sprinkling of sarcasm. Need to make clarification on the term "gassed" as I applied it to Lisa Eyamie - who is a breath of fresh air on the Alberta curling scene btw.

I can see how it could easily be taken out of context. I used with reference to sports like football or wrestling - its a common descriptor when a player has proverbially 'run out of gas' - they can barely stand on their feet because they've drawn out all their energy too early in the match - and have little to no "gas" left in the tank.

In pro wrestling its a common descriptor for someone who comes out like a house on fire, burns off their energy and has nothing left. In pro wrestling this matter is easily remedied by throwing the gassed wrestler out of the ring, starting a long & tedious countout (that keeps mysteriously re-setting to avoid disqualification) to restore their wind and continue the match according to the writer's outcome.

I should also be indicted by the aforementioned War Criminals of Words for using the term LADY BABA. Most of you don't go bck on the CZ boards that far but when legendary Lorraine Lang first came out nursing a new team with Krista Scharf (now McCarville) and Ashley * others I referred to her worldly and grandmotherly style as Lady Baba. Even I woulda called me out on that one. Perhaps the ill-tempered trolls thought it funny, I suppose. Although these termites don't find anything funny, even their short vile-tempered trigger tempers!

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BETTER TO HAVE HOG'S BREATH THAN NO BREATH AT ALL

Since you did not refer to the quotations pertaining to Homan

and Lisa, presumably you agree that I quoted you correctly.

With regard to the last statement which you claim referred

to soiling the ice in Charleswood, I would suggest it had

little to do with soiling the ice there or any other part of

Winnipeg. Actually it referenced Team Homan.

Please refer to your post dated 02-03-17, 10:05 PM. which

reads, "I don't think they'll soil themselves either (like

Jones) in either semi or final."

Regarding McCarville, I'll let your crack research team

work on that one. If they can't find it in a couple of weeks,

I'll be pleased to give you the exact date and time of your

post.

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quote:
Originally posted by On The Nose

If your post is not a joke, it is laughable.
Honestly.

The only phrase that I've had a problem with from M.L. was the recent 'Lisa was either gassed, or' referenced to above. If the intention was to suggest that the curler was possibly either drunk or high on something, then that is unacceptable. It is getting way too deep in the area of personal insults.
But that is the only thing I've seen from M.L. that has crossed the line in my 5 years or so of reading this message board.

If you and others are truly offended by the other benign phrases you quoted above, and by monikers like 'Mean Girls', etc., you belong either at the head of the 'Political Correctness' party, or with others who possess little to no comprehension of what is truly offensive in life, and who simply try to create problems where no problem exists, simply in order that they get attention.
People who feel 'better' about themselves by stepping on others deserve each other's company. But it would be appreciated if you'd spare the rest of us your company.

It's very sad that some people are so personally insecure today that everything seems to 'offend' them. This has led to the disastrous rise of 'political correctness' - which is a classic case of the 'cure' being far worse than the illness it claims - falsely - to remedy.

While you criticize M.L. for very benign comments, you, meanwhile have taken shots at M.L., called him juvenile, insulting names, complimented others who do the same, and encouraged others to insult, vilify, and belittle him. You (and certain others of your ilk) have thus contributed material on this message board which is far more unacceptable and objectionable than anything that M.L. writes.

Wow...



I can't ever recall calling M.L. 'juvenile' but now that you

mention it, that would not be entirely inappropriate given

the insults he labels curlers with on a daily, even hourly

basis.

And it's not surprising either that you find his belittling,

condescending remarks about curlers laughable and fully

tolerable - given your standards which are unequivocally

low - perhaps lower than M.L.'s, if that possible.


In any case, Sport, I hope my remarks will not dissuade you

from continuing to defend M.L's remarks even if they may

be odious. Posters like myself welcome your fodder.

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I know of 3 people who have asked him politely and or bluntly to quit with the unwanted nicknames. 2 are currently in playdowns right now and the other is a former world champ.
So, to say they are harmless is simply nave.
Any players that have been referred to as anything but their given names have been disrespected by this self imposed "Legend".
Nicknames are used by friends and acquaintances that know, for a fact, that the name is acceptable by the person.
Any disrespectful names that Manitoba Idiot has ben called has been earned, unlike any name he has called curlers that are discussed on here.
But, taken from a private message " he has the right to act like a moron".

And... here are a few more "classy" names he has used:
Queen Kong
Noisy Nix
Obnoxious Amy
Hobo playing 3rd (Sloan)
And maybe the worst, "Jones would plod all kinds of curling IUD`s``

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This has got to be the weakest Alberta men's playdowns ever. Whoever wins out of Botcher or Thomas will still probably finish 5th or 6th at the Brier, but still I'm used to it always sending a team that could potentially win.

This may be an effect of the men not having a Team Canada for so long. Most provinces only have one elite team and they were virtually auto-berthed into the brier every year.

The only province that I would say currently has two teams that could both be good enough to win a brier would be Manitoba (Carruthers and McEwen).

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This has got to be the weakest Alberta men's playdowns ever. Whoever wins out of Botcher or Thomas will still probably finish 5th or 6th at the Brier, but still I'm used to it always sending a team that could potentially win.

This may be an effect of the men not having a Team Canada for so long. Most provinces only have one elite team and they were virtually auto-berthed into the brier every year.

The only province that I would say currently has two teams that could both be good enough to win a brier would be Manitoba (Carruthers and McEwen).



It's really not a guarantee one of them will win either

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I know of 3 people who have asked him politely and or bluntly to quit with the unwanted nicknames. 2 are currently in playdowns right now and the other is a former world champ.
So, to say they are harmless is simply nave.
Any players that have been referred to as anything but their given names have been disrespected by this self imposed "Legend".
Nicknames are used by friends and acquaintances that know, for a fact, that the name is acceptable by the person.
Any disrespectful names that Manitoba Idiot has ben called has been earned, unlike any name he has called curlers that are discussed on here.
But, taken from a private message " he has the right to act like a moron".

And... here are a few more "classy" names he has used:
Queen Kong
Noisy Nix
Obnoxious Amy
Hobo playing 3rd (Sloan)
And maybe the worst, "Jones would plod all kinds of curling IUD`s``


Oh my god... he called a curler "noisy" and "obnoxious"? Really? That's completely unacceptable and crosses way, way over the line... in the ridiculous world of 'political correctness'.

I honestly cannot believe that you people are serious, complaining about such benign trivialities. If you are, in fact, serious, you clearly are far more troubled than is M.L.
And if some elite level curlers have truly complained about M.L.'s nicknames, then they seriously need to grow a thicker skin.

Nicknames are abundant all over sports. Sportscasters today love to create nicknames - the flattering and unflattering alike - for various athletes. And they all reach a far wider audience than M.L. does.

You strongly object to M.L. referring to some curlers as "noisy", "obnoxious", and "mean girls", but you have no problem in you yourselves calling people "idiots" and "losers". How can you thus be taken seriously?
Honestly, if you people complaining - actually, not only complaining, but also spotlighting your blatant hypocrisy by calling M.L. an "idiot", "loser", etc - if you people who are doing this are over 10 years of age, it is beyond comprehension.

No doubt you will find endless pleasure and entertainment in the following article... isn't it wonderful that this little girl got what she 'deserved'?
Did you do things like this in school? Or are you 'late bloomers'?
What you are doing here is the adult equivalent of this - which is obviously not very 'adult'...

www.Giving-'Losers'-What-They-'Deserve'...

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It's really not a guarantee one of them will win either



I now firmly believe Carruthers could finish in the 1-2 game and have at least a 50% chance of winning a Brier (as a skip) while TNT McEwen would probably find a way to struggle for a playoff berth (4th or a tie-breaker) and have an early playoff exit.

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I now firmly believe Carruthers could finish in the 1-2 game and have at least a 50% chance of winning a Brier (as a skip) while TNT McEwen would probably find a way to struggle for a playoff berth (4th or a tie-breaker) and have an early playoff exit.



they would both have a pretty good chance of winning.

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Reading and comprehension my fellow Cz member. OTN

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