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04-17-16 09:03AM
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World Mixed Doubles - 2016

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The Saskatoon pairing of Marliese Kasner and Dustin Kalthoff are part of a record 42-country field that includes, for the first time, entries from Qatar and Israel.

Not only will the Canadians be chasing just our country’s second trip to the medal podium since the World Mixed Doubles was introduced in 2008, but they’ll also be trying to secure qualifying points for Canada’s bid to be in the field for the 2018 Winter Olympics in PyeongChang, South Korea.

The combined results of the 2016 and 2017 World Mixed Doubles (April 22-29 in Lethbridge, Alta.) will decide the seven teams that will join the host South Koreans in PyeongChang, where mixed doubles will make its debut as a medal discipline.

Canada enters the 2016 World Mixed Doubles Championship ranked sixth in the world in the discipline.
Our best result was a bronze medal won by Alli Flaxey and Sean Grassie in 2009 at Cortina d’Ampezzo, Italy.
Last year in Sochi, the Canadian team of Charley Thomas and Kalynn Park finished fourth.
Canada is in a pool with Australia, China, France, Ireland, Italy and Serbia.
There are six seven-team pools, with 16 teams making the playoffs — the top two teams in each pool, plus the next two best third-place finishers based on draw-shot challenge totals. The other four third-place finishers will go into a pre-qualifying playoff to determine the final two spots in the 16-team single-knockout playoff.


Selected games from the World Mixed Doubles Championship will be streamed live online.

http://www.worldcurling.org/wmdcc2016

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18-0 Russia vs. Qatar...so I could take old boy, get citizenship in a country such as Abu Dhabi, Botswana & go to a World Championship.

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winning start for Canada

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Major international debuts made at World Mixed Doubles Curling Championship

Luxembourg, Serbia and Qatar made curling history in Sunday (17 April) morning’s fourth session of round-robin play.

For Qatar it was their first ever appearance in an international curling event and they played Wales.
Wales won the game by 13-2. Luxembourg and Serbia also suffered losses, but for them their games were their first matches at a World Curling Championship. Luxembourg lost to England, 2-11 and Serbia to Australia, 3-10.


In the final game of session four, Canada beat France, 9-3

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LIVE streaming .. on now

FIN-AUT..... WCF World Mixed Doubles Chp 2016 - Group B

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I get it that this is an "Open" competition and EACH WCF member country can submit one team for entry but having 42 teams compete is dumb. They need to put in flights with relegation and promotion just like they do for regular men's and women's curling.

Look at the schedule 42 teams creates. A six day group only round robin has Canada playing one game on four days, two games on one day, and zero games on one day. Lots of time for sight seeing I guess lol. Mixed doubles is shorter to play which is one of its positive attributes. Teams should easily be able to play three games in one day. WCF needs to get this down to 12 teams in a Flight/Division and run it like a "normal" event. Earn your way up or down, I get it having wide open competition maybe looks good to the IOC but having the weaker teams play weaker teams and the better teams play the better teams more often is just a better format.

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Thumbs up Canada wins again

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KARLSTAD, Sweden - Canada scored a decisive three points in the fifth end in an 8-3 win over Ireland on Monday at the world mixed doubles curling championship.

After the Irish duo of Alison Fyfe and Neil Fyfe opened with a point in the first end, Canada's team of Marliese Kasner and Dustin Kalthoff responded with a deuce in the second and a steal of two in the third.
Ireland responded with a point in the fourth before Canada took control with a three-point fifth.
The teams traded singles in the sixth and seventh ends before the teams shook hands.

The win moved Canada into second place in the Group D standings at 2-0. China leads at 3-0.

The Canadian team, which includes national coach Jeff Stoughton and team leader Jim Waite, are in a group that also includes Australia, Italy and Serbia.

The top two finishers are guaranteed berths in the 16-team playoffs, while the third-place finisher also has a chance, based on the draw-shot challenge totals.

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LIVE streaming..on Now...

event website

http://www.worldcurling.org/wmdcc2016

on Now -- ISR-NZL WCF World Mixed Doubles Chp 2016 - Group E

NOTE: Canada’s game against China’s Dexin Ba and Rui Wang,

Wednesday at 3 p.m. ET, will be streamed live

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I get it that this is an "Open" competition and EACH WCF member country can submit one team for entry but having 42 teams compete is dumb. They need to put in flights with relegation and promotion just like they do for regular men's and women's curling.

Look at the schedule 42 teams creates. A six day group only round robin has Canada playing one game on four days, two games on one day, and zero games on one day. Lots of time for sight seeing I guess lol. Mixed doubles is shorter to play which is one of its positive attributes. Teams should easily be able to play three games in one day. WCF needs to get this down to 12 teams in a Flight/Division and run it like a "normal" event. Earn your way up or down, I get it having wide open competition maybe looks good to the IOC but having the weaker teams play weaker teams and the better teams play the better teams more often is just a better format.



But how else are you going to see a team give up a steal of 6?

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But how else are you going to see a team give up a steal of 6?



Watch Qatar play curling?

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Kerri Einarson scored a rare eight-ender in her first round robin game of
2015 Manitoba Scotties Tournament of Hearts against Tiffany McLean.
It was the first time a team scored an eight-ender in recorded Manitoba Scotties history

so it happens.. even in Canada..

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2- game day for Canada

Tuesday was a two-game day for the Canadians, with games against
Italy’s Marco Pascale and Lecrezia Laurenti (2 a.m. ET)
Canada won 9-5

and Serbia’s Filip Stojanovic and Dara Gravara Stojanovic (8:30 a.m. ET).
Canada 11-0 after 5

The Canadian team — which includes national coach Jeff Stoughton and team leader Jim Waite — and France are in a group with Australia, China, Ireland, Italy and Serbia.

The top two finishers are guaranteed berths in the 16-team playoffs, while the third-place finisher also has a chance, based on the Draw-Shot Challenge totals.

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LIVE streaming - Tuesday

Tues- Apr 19- 11:45 am ET

JPN - ENG - Group C..

http://www.worldcurling.org/wmdcc2016


Canada now at 4-0...


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canada doing great so far. having said that they definitely got lucky with where they ended up. probably the softest group in the field..either that or group E.

hungary and norway both looking strong. those are my favorites to win it all. of course you cant ever count out switzerland at this event. korea and finland also doing really well and austria is looking good early . scotland 2-1 but looking shaky

Canada and United states both 3-0 but as i said both landed in really soft groups. will have to wait until the playoffs to see where they really stand.

sweden always does well here but the slow start may do them in in the end

i see that the already different and complicated playoffs have been even more so since now there's a whole b side event once they get there.

predictions for top 16:

hungary
switzerland
finland
korea
austria
norway
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turkey
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china
united states
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Re: or Manitoba Scotties

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Kerri Einarson scored a rare eight-ender in her first round robin game of
2015 Manitoba Scotties Tournament of Hearts against Tiffany McLean.
It was the first time a team scored an eight-ender in recorded Manitoba Scotties history

so it happens.. even in Canada..



But was it a steal? And did the opponents have to knock one of Einarson's guards into the house to make it happen?

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I get it that this is an "Open" competition and EACH WCF member country can submit one team for entry but having 42 teams compete is dumb. They need to put in flights with relegation and promotion just like they do for regular men's and women's curling.

Look at the schedule 42 teams creates. A six day group only round robin has Canada playing one game on four days, two games on one day, and zero games on one day. Lots of time for sight seeing I guess lol. Mixed doubles is shorter to play which is one of its positive attributes. Teams should easily be able to play three games in one day. WCF needs to get this down to 12 teams in a Flight/Division and run it like a "normal" event. Earn your way up or down, I get it having wide open competition maybe looks good to the IOC but having the weaker teams play weaker teams and the better teams play the better teams more often is just a better format.



i can see the way of thinking though. letting more teams compete here is the best way to help them grow. if the weak teams are always playing the weak teams then how will they get any better without access to the stronger teams.

and in mixed doubles you never know what you'll get. this is the only time a lot of countries will even qualify for a world championship oir get to play on arena ice.you get some great surprises like spain and new zealand getting medals or hungary winning twice. france and austria have also medalled here.

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I'm one of those that are actually like that all members can compete in these one worlds. Lets them get some wins on the board and as we know MXD can produce random results. I think it's a good thing for MXD.

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i can see the way of thinking though. letting more teams compete here is the best way to help them grow. if the weak teams are always playing the weak teams then how will they get any better without access to the stronger teams.

and in mixed doubles you never know what you'll get. this is the only time a lot of countries will even qualify for a world championship oir get to play on arena ice.you get some great surprises like spain and new zealand getting medals or hungary winning twice. france and austria have also medalled here.



Those same non-traditional countries you mention would still be in the correct division for their strength of play (ie. the top division). Initially rank countries by how they did in the last few Mixed World's. Sure you get stronger by playing better teams... however within every division there would be "better teams" relatively speaking and if you are the best you go up a division. Simple. It works in other sports. All three or four divisions could still play on the same arena ice at the same tournament at the same time. Look at how the European Curling Championships are run...this format should be something similar to that.

I can't see how the weak-sisters are served by getting pounded in almost all games and it sure does not make for a very exciting round robin when 50% of the games are mismatches from the outset. Wake me up for the playoffs when the chaff has been separated from the wheat.

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Those same non-traditional countries you mention would still be in the correct division for their strength of play (ie. the top division). Initially rank countries by how they did in the last few Mixed World's. Sure you get stronger by playing better teams... however within every division there would be "better teams" relatively speaking and if you are the best you go up a division. Simple. It works in other sports. All three or four divisions could still play on the same arena ice at the same tournament at the same time. Look at how the European Curling Championships are run...this format should be something similar to that.

I can't see how the weak-sisters are served by getting pounded in almost all games and it sure does not make for a very exciting round robin when 50% of the games are mismatches from the outset. Wake me up for the playoffs when the chaff has been separated from the wheat.



Agree.

I have watched some horrendous curling on the YouTube channel. Even with teams with some history as Austria, Australia, etc. Some of these curlers are thinking more about jumping up and sweeping than finishing their deliveries. I include the Japanese team who should be better than that.

You can look at shot by shot graphics on the website and there are ends Qatar doesn't get a shot in the house either crashing or going deep.

They gave up 26 points one game!?

What is the use?

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I can't see how the weak-sisters are served by getting pounded in almost all games and it sure does not make for a very exciting round robin when 50% of the games are mismatches from the outset. Wake me up for the playoffs when the chaff has been separated from the wheat.



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...there are ends Qatar doesn't get a shot in the house either crashing or going deep. They gave up 26 points one game!? What is the use?



With all respect guys, but you are being quite selfish.

Fortunatelly, WCF is focused in the development of Curling around the world and not only in Canada, so, countries recently introduced to the game playing against powerhouses is a huge opportunity of advance for those countries.

How do I know it? I am brazilian and you can see the improvement from our first championship in 2014 (losing 4 games giving up more than 10 points, any comparison with Qatar is not a problem) and now making the teams having a "harder" time.. Our female player is even listed as 12th place in the scoring charts.. How did we do it? With the oportunity to have the experience of a truly world championship, not a "3rd Division" (where it would be much dificult to find money and support to go)

All new countries will be a "punching bag" in the their first championships, no problem, but the impact for the sport in their countries is huge!

Spain use to be the punching bag 6 years ago and now they have a bronze medal. The same better result as Canada.

By the way, this is result of years of despite for this category by canadians.. I heard dozen of times that "Doubles is not curling" and it was impossible to even consider to create a league or bonspiel in the curling clubs in Canada. The things are just changing now because it's a olympic sport and Canada know other countries are ahead in the competitions.

By the way, if anyone that lives in Vancouver-BC wants to punch some brazilians on mixed doubles, let me know

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LIVE Streaming.. Wed April 20

Canada’s game against China’s Dexin Ba and Rui Wang,

Wednesday at 3 p.m. ET, will be streamed live

http://www.worldcurling.org/wmdcc2016

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With all respect guys, but you are being quite selfish.

Fortunatelly, WCF is focused in the development of Curling around the world and not only in Canada, so, countries recently introduced to the game playing against powerhouses is a huge opportunity of advance for those countries.

How do I know it? I am brazilian and you can see the improvement from our first championship in 2014 (losing 4 games giving up more than 10 points, any comparison with Qatar is not a problem) and now making the teams having a "harder" time.. Our female player is even listed as 12th place in the scoring charts.. How did we do it? With the oportunity to have the experience of a truly world championship, not a "3rd Division" (where it would be much dificult to find money and support to go)

All new countries will be a "punching bag" in the their first championships, no problem, but the impact for the sport in their countries is huge!

Spain use to be the punching bag 6 years ago and now they have a bronze medal. The same better result as Canada.

By the way, this is result of years of despite for this category by canadians.. I heard dozen of times that "Doubles is not curling" and it was impossible to even consider to create a league or bonspiel in the curling clubs in Canada. The things are just changing now because it's a olympic sport and Canada know other countries are ahead in the competitions.

By the way, if anyone that lives in Vancouver-BC wants to punch some brazilians on mixed doubles, let me know



Sorry, a World Championship is not the place to cut your teeth. Can you imagine track and field, swimming, basketball or tennis doing the same thing. Do you let in 7-1/2 minute milers, swimmers that get lapped, basketball games ending 100-5 or tennis players that don't win a point much less a game?

Watch some of the videos of games with lower to even middle range teams and then Canada or the USA (who has sent a past Men's Olympic medalist). The shot making ability of these teams is terrible. There needs to be a standard set to get to a World Championship, many of these teams aren't close. Get a developmental event and let the World caliber curlers shorten the event so they don't have to eat all their vacation while they play one game a day waiting as a team is getting beat 26-0, 0r 19-0 or 22-2.

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Canada’s game against China’s Dexin Ba and Rui Wang,

Wednesday at 3 p.m. ET, will be streamed live

http://www.worldcurling.org/wmdcc2016

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Finally a team that will give Canada a good game. Why can't mixed doubles be like the worlds.

Top 16 play in the 'A' division, then there is a 'B' & 'C' division, top three from C move up, top three from B move up, bottom 3 from all 3 drop down.

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Seeing scores like what happened with Qatar makes me angry to see. And I see logic in the argument made by biterbar, that Worlds is not a place to learn. But, I go back and think about why they were pushing mixed doubles rather than doubles. I believe that the thought process would be that for new curling nations, training 2 people was far more economic than training 4.

So my proposal would be that for a period of time in teh future, (I'll throw out 4 years) all nations can send a team. But after that time, there will be a staggered approach, and teams/nations would need to have meet qualification standards to compete. Think of it sort of like how Olympic teams are chosen now, with point accumulated from 2 world championships. Take the next 4 mixed doubles championships, and earn points. The top 12 teams would earn a spot to the next worlds. Other nations would have to compete in a playdown, and lets say the top 4 out of that lower tier would earn a spot in worlds, where 16 teams would compete.

My numbers are all quick not thought out guesses, so if you prefer 2 years, not 4, or 10 teams plus 2 rather than 12 teams plus 4. But I think this concept is consistent with the goal of developing the sport.

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Originally posted by biterbar


Sorry, a World Championship is not the place to cut your teeth. Can you imagine track and field, swimming, basketball or tennis doing the same thing. Do you let in 7-1/2 minute milers, swimmers that get lapped, basketball games ending 100-5 or tennis players that don't win a point much less a game?

Watch some of the videos of games with lower to even middle range teams and then Canada or the USA (who has sent a past Men's Olympic medalist). The shot making ability of these teams is terrible. There needs to be a standard set to get to a World Championship, many of these teams aren't close. Get a developmental event and let the World caliber curlers shorten the event so they don't have to eat all their vacation while they play one game a day waiting as a team is getting beat 26-0, 0r 19-0 or 22-2.



Does it count to the disqualified Switzerland after being beaten by Poland 10x4?
What about to the likely disqualified Sweden?

You may not judge all countries based on Qatar.

Is it all about the fear to lose to other countries?

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