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I'll say it one more time, when the skip is pleading/ begging with his OWN third to convince him that the rock was staying says a lot. If it was me. the rock would have been placed out of the rings and I would be drawing for 2 and feel fortunate to do so.
That's the way everyone should understand how the "gentlemen's game" is played.



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Judging by the thread the answer is pissing in the wind.

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Thumbs up Touched rocks and events like Shuster's at the Worlds

Read "Bill's View of the World from Behind "A Pane in the Glass" about touched rocks and the event at the World's. I do think it brings another light to what curling is all about.

Think about it then respond.

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I fully support John Shuster in the decision he made. In the same way he can't prove the rock was staying in, you can't prove the rock was going out. This is the World Men's Curling Championship. The game was a page playoff. I feel sorry Japan missed the rock and I understand it was a difficult situation, but they're are at fault. In other words, there will always be a consequence. In my mind, the situation is no different than a free throw in basketball or a penalty shot in hockey.

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I would just like to know which rule you think the official applied to the situation.

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Fresca bs. You would not have lifted one in similar circumstances.

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I fully support John Shuster in the decision he made. In the same way he can't prove the rock was staying in, you can't prove the rock was going out. This is the World Men's Curling Championship. The game was a page playoff.

^ Exactly.
What better reason to ignore that curling is supposed to be a gentleman's game than because it's a playoff game at the World Championships.
Good sportsmanship and gentlemanly behaviour dictates that when there is doubt and uncertainty over a situation - and in this case, there was obviously much doubt and uncertainty - you give your opponent the benefit of that doubt.
Apparently, though, according to you, there is no room for sportsmanship or for gentlemen when there is a lot on the line.
~ sigh ~

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I feel sorry Japan missed the rock and I understand it was a difficult situation, but they're are at fault.

No, Japan is in no way at fault. The circumstance was one where the shot rebounded so fast, and the hit rock was so close to the foam border, that even if someone was standing right there ready to take action, they would have failed to prevent what happened 9 times out of 10.

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In other words, there will always be a consequence. In my mind, the situation is no different than a free throw in basketball or a penalty shot in hockey.

I see no relation at all to those sports.

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Good sportsmanship and gentlemanly behaviour dictates that when there is doubt and uncertainty over a situation - and in this case, there was obviously much doubt and uncertainty - you give your opponent the benefit of that doubt.



I totally agree.

Since there was doubt, Japan should have insisted that the USA rock remain in the rings.

Japan failed to act as gentlemen and sportsmen by not giving the USA the benefit of the uncertainty that happened through no fault of the USA.

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Ladies and gentlemen:
I get e-mail notifications when there's a new post on this site. May I humbly suggest that we put this thread to sleep? Nothing is going to change and nobody is likely to change his/her opinion...and even if they did, the deal is done.

Now I'll wait for my e-mail...

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I totally agree.

Since there was doubt, Japan should have insisted that the USA rock remain in the rings.

Japan failed to act as gentlemen and sportsmen by not giving the USA the benefit of the uncertainty that happened through no fault of the USA.


Heh...
Except for that the onus was on the U.S.A. to make the call, not on Japan. And the U.S.A. obviously made the selfish call, rather than the sportsman-like, gentlemanly call.

Was it officially up to the U.S.A. to make the call? I don't know - but that is how it played out. At the very least, if the officials are not going to make the call themselves, they should have determined who officially gets to make the call. And whichever team gets to make the official call should have given the benefit of the doubt to their opponent.

Jim - it's quite silly to ask us to stop for your personal convenience. You decided to ask to receive alerts. You can un-decide, as well. If you don't want E mail alerts, it's obviously up to you to unsubscribe from the thread - or to simply ignore the alerts.

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Noser, please don't let me stop you-a month, a year...doesn't matter at all. I just shudder to think what would have happened if this website existed back in 1972.

If you're too young to know what I'm talking about, Google "Curse of LaBonte"-we'd still be going...

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