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10-22-18 05:18PM
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Grand Slam Cd'n Beef Masters

The second event and first major of the 2018-19 Pinty's Grand Slam of Curling begins on October 23rd.

Fifteen men's and women's teams have been invited based on the World Curling Tour's Order of Merit. Of the top fifteen men's teams DeCruz, Bottcher and Ulsrud declined to participate. In the women's division Sidorova, ranked 15th, also declined

Through a sponsor's exemption Jamie Murphy and Kaitlyn Jones (no relation) were also invited.

The men's and women's divisions have been split into three separate pools each of which will have five teams. Following a round-robin within each of these pools, eight will advance in each division to the QF's. As with all Pinty's Grand Slam events, the five-rock rule will be in effect; counting to five (5) is not expected to become problematic.

Sportsnet, Sportsnet 360 and the CBC will cover it beginning October 25th.

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Counting never a problem, ambiguous rules provided when not a conventional curling game can be a problem.

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Does anyone know of any streaming for the non televised games from Truro? I'v searched and can't find any.

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I’ve been watching GSOC events for a few years now, and I can’t recall them having any coverage, either online or on TV, of the Tuesday and Wednesday draws. Video coverage always seems to begin only on the Thursday.

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And the real question is, why not? Any viewers is better than no viewers.

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And the real question is, why not? Any viewers is better than no viewers.


And, soooo looking forward to tomorrow.

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WTG Casey, Chelsey, and Darcy. All three with challenging first opponents and chalked up the doubleewe. Scheidegger is an advancing force of the future. Carey has intermittent forceful power. Robertson has sage adaptability. It takes all kinds.

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Good on Scheidegger. Absolutely nothing better than beating the world's number 1 ranked team right out of the gate!

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Scheidegger & her girls must feel great. Delivering the scalp of the world's #1 is an even better cup o tea than reeling in Homan or Jones. Jones has been in "flail-mode" last couple weeks while Homan is still out there pelting people with a wide variety of shots.

Right now - in canadian rankings I'd rate Einarson & Schiedegger 1-2. Both squads have powered up considerably. Schiedegger has the allure of stability with Carrie Ann & her sister Jesse, while Einarson takes no prisoners. Her front end might just be the best in canada, right now - if not the world. Funny, Val might be the only minor weakness on the squad. Not a strong brush at 3rd - and Val will always miss some key shots at bad times. Einarson may not throw as sharp a rock as JJ Jones or Swedish Anna but she's always near the stick on hits - she's reading ice better than ever before and Val, while not a remarkable marksman herself provides stability and knowledge on the tee.

Homan, no doubt is #3 in Canada - many would rate her higher based on her 3 STOHs and money farm but she's been trying to regain top form.

If one wants to rate a team reputationally why not put Jones at #1 - she's wrapped up 6 x STOHs and huge money - but its obvious JJ is now in decline.

FWIW - the Carey team can still shoot lights out and win when Chelsea is moody or out of sorts. Thats a great trait.

Laura Walker and her all-vets squad would be #6.

Several canadian teams including Fleury, Spencer, Flaxey, etc. would vie for #7 to #10 spots.

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So that junior team from Nova Scotia that got in on the sponsor’s exemption, Team Kaitlyn Jones....they’re 2-0 and took out Silvana Tirinzoni and scored three in the final end vs. the all-skips Kerri Einarson team. Huh!

Would you want to have to play them now? 😀

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Having gifted a sponsor's exemption to Kaitlyn Jones, wouldn't ya think the officials who established the draw schedule might have at least attempted to place her in a reasonably competitive and balanced draw?

Yes? Well think again.

Actually she was assigned to the "shark pool" with Homan (OOM 3), Einarson ( OOM 4 ), Tirinzone ( OOM 5 ) and Fleury ( OOM 6 ). Clearly, they could not have made things any more difficult even if they had to.

So why in the world didn't they throw her into JJ's "goldfish pool" instead where the level of competition is significantly weaker?

While nobody expects her to win this thing, this draw schedule is anything but fair and balanced in my opinion.
It is not unlike the draw schedule in the Autumn Gold Classic earlier this month. Seems to me something is horribly wrong when officials habitually and consistently make it difficult for some teams but provide a relatively easy path for others to reach the playoffs.

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i really would like to know if there's a formula for how the draws for events are made. at times it honestly seems like someone just sits there and picks names out of a hat and thats how they decide who goes in what group.

and the conspiracy theorist in me does think that, at times the host teams are given easier draws

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Having gifted a sponsor's exemption to Kaitlyn Jones, wouldn't ya think the officials who established the draw schedule might have at least attempted to place her in a reasonably competitive and balanced draw?

Yes? Well think again.

Actually she was assigned to the "shark pool" with Homan (OOM 3), Einarson ( OOM 4 ), Tirinzone ( OOM 5 ) and Fleury ( OOM 6 ). Clearly, they could not have made things any more difficult even if they had to.

So why in the world didn't they throw her into JJ's "goldfish pool" instead where the level of competition is significantly weaker?

While nobody expects her to win this thing, this draw schedule is anything but fair and balanced in my opinion.
It is not unlike the draw schedule in the Autumn Gold Classic earlier this month. Seems to me something is horribly wrong when officials habitually and consistently make it difficult for some teams but provide a relatively easy path for others to reach the playoffs.



Maybe, this is just a thought, but looks like pool A might be a bit less traumatic. Although, a couple of the rinks in pool A have given some really good games. I wonder what procedure is followed when these pools are set up. Hmmm. Just wonderin.

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Maybe, this is just a thought, but looks like pool A might be a bit less traumatic. Although, a couple of the rinks in pool A have given some really good games. I wonder what procedure is followed when these pools are set up. Hmmm. Just wonderin.



There should be a preset draw based on CTRS/OOM standings 2 weeks MAX prior to an event. I've said it before and I'll say it again, too many times the draw is left up to "LOCAL" interpretation as they see it. Or worse, lack of knowledge of how it affects the teams, or lack of care. Make it so that ALL events earning points must follow the exact same draw parameters. Simple. Easy. Fair for all. Seems so, but we'll see.

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I'm enjoying the instagram feed coverage for this event! They show lots of good shots and interesting candid shots, like suddenly, to my surprise, Team Jennifer Jones has a coach! Wow! Victor Kjall! Who knew? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Kj%C3%A4ll

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Hopefully they draw the names out of a hat ..

Good coverage for the ladies .. not so much for men. .... guessing 75% of tv audience is senior women ???

Edin v jacobs tonight

Cset la vie

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Eppings come around for 4 in eight should not have been swept “ to make it bend more “

Things havent changed that much in 50 years imho *

I guarantee he had a better chance of making the shot without brushing .... at least it would have stayed to tie ...

Except maybe the brains have shrunk ....

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On a positive note i like the small scoreboard and rock count at bottom left - huge improvement

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Poor Glenn Howard -- just catch a break in this 'spiel!

And wow, Homan nearly shut out Einarson.

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Homan must have been tired of all the talk about Einarson starting to surpass her as a power team. Looked like Homan and her mean girls laid waste to Einarson - still searching for survivors from the Einarson team??!!! lol

Anyways, most of the super-teams appear headed for playoff confrontations. Silvana T. should have rocked Einarson but late end fall aparts by Silvana & Paetz let Einarson escape with the W. Einarson & Val both had mediocre 76% outings - Shannon Birchard in midst of a mini-slump at 64%, lowest player on the sheet.

Jones continues to shake off her time travel and has sewn up a playoff spot.

Team Hasselborg seems to have fully powered up and will probably end up confronting Homan in the final.

Jones will try to prevent a Homan-Hasselborg final but its obvious Jones can no longer hang with the 85 to 90's the H-Girls are putting up. Jones strategical treachery now has to overcome 15 to 25 pt. shot point differentials. Thats tough, particularly at this level - also considering Homan & Hasselborg are very familiar with JJ's bag o tricks.

Some very good teams now out of contention: Jamie Sinclair doesn't look very good without Allie Carlson at 3rd, Tirinzoni & Muirhead both look like also-rans this week.

Remains to be seen if the feature attraction, Kaitlyn Jones can make playoffs or is headed for a tie-breaker?

Einarson appears to have flattened out - I don't see her factoring into the final 4 this weekend but obviously I could be wrong.

Chelsea Carey, is still ragging along - getting wins out of low percentage slobbernokkers by Chelsea.

Can't help but thinking Hasselborg, Homan, Scheidegger will comprise 3 of the final 4 teams.

The 4th spot - right now I'd favor Carey slipping thru - but JJ, Einarson, Kaitlyn Jones, even Barb Spencer could make a play for that 4th spot.

The matches I'm looking most forward to and we should get at least one of them this weekend:

Hasselborg vs. Homan
Homan vs. Scheidegger
Scheidegger vs. Hasselborg
Hasselborg vs. Homan

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What’s up with Jacobs? Planning to peak later? Or just not up to speed yet?

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Perhaps he's in charge of the Halloween set-up in the Sioux?

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Jennifer Jones really desecrating the ice this afternoon. Strange, cuz its the TV feature game and JJ usually is average to great on TV.

Just barfed up a 3-spot by gassing two open shots on 7, serving Nina Roth (who's curling even worse than Jones) with a 3 spot silver-platter on 7.

Jones don't care. She's made playoffs regardless. Both her and Homan, even Hasselborg must be jockeying to avoid contact with a fellow monster in the playoff round, huh?

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She just showed the rest of the curling world how NOT to play UP 4 WITH 2 ENDS TO PLAY. Why would you put rocks in play WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO SCORE. 5 rock rule schmozzled.
And then to purposely take 3 extra breaks on the last rock thrown so EVERYONE is watching...... and you missed. Memories of the Scotties in Charlottetown when she raised her arms in the air after the big last shot vs Holland from SK thinking she made it after waiting for ALL the cameras to be on her..... and she lost. Fitting.

Back from China yada yada yada. You're good, but there's 10-15 teams that WILL beat you on a regular basis.

Go Homan. Go young Jones.

Too soon? No.

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Jones has had a wonderful career - perhaps the best ever in Canadian womens curling history!

But father time is catching up with her - she's not gonna budge playing her ultra-aggressive game - and frankly she no longer has the shots to support that type of game.

She's usually in the low 60s to mid 70s - against fawns she'll win her share - but NOT everyone is a fawn anymore. Not everyone is taken aback by her unrelenting aggression. Most of the monster teams now use it against her and rack up their share of big ends and/or steals.

Too bad cuz right now JJ has the best lineup she's prolly ever had. All for not.

In this even she'll succumb to any good team in the QFs - unless she can finagle Barb Spencer into her segment.

Other disappointments - Laura Walker #1. If she had the shot-making to match her amazing personality and on-ice demeanor she'd be winning the next 5 Scotties. Alas she doesn't. Now a consistent 65 to 75% shooter ain't gonna cut it. Team will stay together cuz Laura did an amazing job selling her personality to sponsors. Wouldn't surprise if they put Cathy O back to skip - who knows. Cathy is a pro curler but she's not gonna make that many more key shots than Laura.

Einarson needs to sustain. She was shell-shocked at the hands of the Mean Girls - didn't know what hit her. . . . after being the dominant canadian womens team the first 1/3 of the season.

Hasselborg showed a few cracks in her armor, too! ]Tie-breaker might be a wake-up call . . .

Kaitlyn Jones - great story for the young junior - lets see what she does with the kleig lights on . . . .

Carey? Easily the most perplexing performer out there - other than Jones! But Chels is only 34 while Jones is rapidly approaching 45.

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