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2017 women's world championship

This is coming up pretty quickly. I'm pretty excited this field is amazing. I would argue that it's one of the best and deepest fields we have ever seen. The only field I can think of that even compares or comes close in recent years is the field of 2009 that had anette Norberg, Mirjam ott, Debbie McCormick, Angelina Jensen, Andrea schopp, bingyu wang and Jennifer Jones competing.

It's gonna be hard to predict the final 4 here but I'm gonna go with Canada, Scotland , Sweden and China. Quite honestly it wouldn't surprise me to be off big time. Russia, Denmark, Switzerland and South Korea all have a strongt possibility of being there

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This is coming up pretty quickly. I'm pretty excited this field is amazing. I would argue that it's one of the best and deepest fields we have ever seen. The only field I can think of that even compares or comes close in recent years is the field of 2009 that had anette Norberg, Mirjam ott, Debbie McCormick, Angelina Jensen, Andrea schopp, bingyu wang and Jennifer Jones competing.

It's gonna be hard to predict the final 4 here but I'm gonna go with Canada, Scotland , Sweden and China. Quite honestly it wouldn't surprise me to be off big time. Russia, Denmark, Switzerland and South Korea all have a strongt possibility of being there

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http://www.worldcurling.org/wwcc2017/broadcast-coverage

That's a link to the WCF's comprehensive list of all the broadcast partners for the Women's World Championship.

I was specifically interested in whether any of it would be viewable live in the USA, and it appears the whole thing will be. It's being split across 2 different sports channels, though. NBCSN and Universal HD are handling different matches on different days.

I have DirecTV and already get NBCSN. Universal HD is on a different tier than I get, but then I looked into it and found they have a promotional offer on it and a few other channels called the HD Extra Pack where I can get all of them for free for three months and then dump them after that at no cost if I a) don't need them anymore and b) remember to do it in three months. After that they'd be an extra $5 a month.

Of course, with the time difference, many of these matches are in the middle of the night here, but that's what DVRs are for.

It will also be interesting to see if the youtube channel is ever covering any matches I'm more interested in than the ones the US channels are carrying. Even if they geoblock the youtube channel, I have a way around that.

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Does anyone know if Vic and Russ are making the trip to China, or will they be broadcasting from the studio?

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http://www.torontosun.com/2017/03/1...worlds-in-china

Homan rink working on its timing for worlds in China

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As a fan of all things associated with the Republic of Korea aka South Korea - the host of 2018 PyeongChang Winter Olympics next February I am keen to see their women's team perform well at this event, in their own back yard. (Read - shorter flight than Europe or North America).

WCT Page: http://www.worldcurl.com/player.php...3924&view=Teams
Wiki Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Eun-jung_(curler)
Fourth: Eunjung Kim (Skip) Third: Kyeong-Ae Kim (Vice) Second: Seoyeong Kim Lead: Yeongmi Kim

Three time Asia champion. They have trained and travelled in North America. I like their chances to hit the podium at this event. They have been together as a team for 6 years. Are the highest ranked Asian team on WCT OEM (15th)

Korea needs teams to cheer for at their Olympics. (Remember 2010 Vanoc?) They are not strong in Hockey and Kim YuNa has retired. They have great short track and trick skiers - but my hope is curling will be their big Olympic dark horse for a podium finish. With that, I will cheer these women on.
Also, we expect CDA to perform well. But.. Long flight. Foreign land. We'll see what they get for ice - should be okay.
May the games begin - in Beijing. And good curling. Gerry - do we get a score link here?

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https://twitter.com/TeamHoman/media

Arrived in Beijing! Thanks to @lululemon for providing us with all sorts of comfortable clothes for our adventure at Worlds.

..excited for team Homan, I'm positive they will rep Canada well at World's !

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As a fan of all things associated with the Republic of Korea aka South Korea - the host of 2018 PyeongChang Winter Olympics next February I am keen to see their women's team perform well at this event, in their own back yard. (Read - shorter flight than Europe or North America).

WCT Page: http://www.worldcurl.com/player.php...3924&view=Teams
Wiki Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Eun-jung_(curler)
Fourth: Eunjung Kim (Skip) Third: Kyeong-Ae Kim (Vice) Second: Seoyeong Kim Lead: Yeongmi Kim

Three time Asia champion. They have trained and travelled in North America. I like their chances to hit the podium at this event. They have been together as a team for 6 years. Are the highest ranked Asian team on WCT OEM (15th)

Korea needs teams to cheer for at their Olympics. (Remember 2010 Vanoc?) They are not strong in Hockey and Kim YuNa has retired. They have great short track and trick skiers - but my hope is curling will be their big Olympic dark horse for a podium finish. With that, I will cheer these women on.
Also, we expect CDA to perform well. But.. Long flight. Foreign land. We'll see what they get for ice - should be okay.
May the games begin - in Beijing. And good curling. Gerry - do we get a score link here?

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I've been to Beijing...it is actually a pretty sophisticated world class city. A bit polluted but not some backwater. You use bottled water to brush your teeth etc...but that is supplied by the hotels.

The only unknown will be the ice, but I think team Homan can adjust.

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yeah, south korea may have a pretty miserable olympics as host. the only sports they have any kind of meal hope in are speed skating, curling and MAYBE bobsleigh and skeleton.they arent getting anything anywhere else

so id hope they do well in curling. but..who knows, being the host can put a ton of pressure on you. look at what happened to sidorova in 2014

on the sidorova note im surprised she's here. moiseeva won the euros and got silver at the winter universiade. she's done well this year. unless there was another playdown to decide who comes here which she lost i would have expected to see moiseeva here again.

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They did in fact have another playdown last month, and if I recall correctly Sidorova won 4 games to Moiseeva's 2.

Last year they held a single playdown in the fall for both events, this year after Moiseeva's upset win they shortly thereafter announced there would be a second playdown prior to Worlds (as they had done in previous years). Last year, they more or less said a second playdown was essentially unnecessary and would theoretically take Team Sidorova off the road where experience would benefit them more than playing in-country.

Pure speculation, but I think their federation was nervous about Moiseeva's win and how the team would do at Euros...hence the decision for a second playdown (which was announced prior to Euros). Obviously they had nothing to worry about.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just trying to explain it as best as I can from what I've read in Google-translated Russian curling-related articles. If anything, I think this puts more pressure on Sidorova to perform...if they have a bad week, their fed might be second-guessing things based on how Moiseeva did at Euros.

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Barring swamp-dog ice or illness to key players - this event breaks down to two groups of 3 teams each:

The top group is obviously Homan, Paetz & Muirhead - the next 3 are Sweden, Russia, Denmark.

Wang & Korea are possible wild cards who could nip positions with one of the second tier.

Also possible that one of the top group plays down from their regular level. Highly unlikely but if I had to pick it would be Muirhead as her full team doesn't really stack up to Paetz or Homan.

Despite her wealth of experience Lena Neilson could be either a 3 win team or a .500 group. Lots of experience for the Danes but a real weakness presents at 3rd in former distracted Danish blonde Maddy Dupont.

Kim or Wang could be anywhere on the board - from 1 or 2 wins to 7 or 8 wins.

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They did in fact have another playdown last month, and if I recall correctly Sidorova won 4 games to Moiseeva's 2.

Last year they held a single playdown in the fall for both events, this year after Moiseeva's upset win they shortly thereafter announced there would be a second playdown prior to Worlds (as they had done in previous years). Last year, they more or less said a second playdown was essentially unnecessary and would theoretically take Team Sidorova off the road where experience would benefit them more than playing in-country.

Pure speculation, but I think their federation was nervous about Moiseeva's win and how the team would do at Euros...hence the decision for a second playdown (which was announced prior to Euros). Obviously they had nothing to worry about.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just trying to explain it as best as I can from what I've read in Google-translated Russian curling-related articles. If anything, I think this puts more pressure on Sidorova to perform...if they have a bad week, their fed might be second-guessing things based on how Moiseeva did at Euros.

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Team Moiseeva came together right before that 'Supercup' in the fall and shocked folks by beating Sidorova. Watching them on the ice at the Euros, and elsewhere this season has been my favorite part of the year so far. They have fun on the ice and like mentioned before handled things with class in a way I haven't seen in any other championships at all (i.e. no "broom flips"). The second pre-World's 'Supercup' was actually live streamed on YouTube last month, but was held in a tiny stark lane with no audience beyond Russian Curling officials and had one camera on the side of the ice which made it tough to tell what was going on in the house sometimes, but they just came up unlucky on the the third day. Thankfully, this won't be the last we see of Team Moiseeva as they'll be playing in the Humpty's Champions Cup thanks to that Euros win. With a really good year under their belt, it should be a fun battle to see who emerges for next year's Olympics as the Russian rep.

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I snooped into the WCT "teams" history for the curlers on the Moisseva team. Saying these women "arrived" and "surprised" the Eros is a bit of a stretch. I follow Olga Zharkova who is a mentor, a seasoned curler and a Olympic Team employee who goes way back beyond the WCT stats. She has skipped all of the curlers on this team. The lead Guzeiva, and 2nd, Arsenkina both came from the school of Zharkova. They are experienced curlers, and unlike Coach Olga Andrianova bear-like leadership presentation, which ended in 2012 with the hiring of "foreign" coaches. Zharkova was a victim of the former coaching exclusionary tactics but stayed close and brought many young curlers under her fold. Zharkova has a real joi de vive for the sport, and continues to exemplify curling leadership there.

I see that Vaselyeva moved from 2nd to 3rd and that she has curled with Arsenkina through the years. Skipper, has moved up too 2nd, 3rd, now skipping. There is a solid pool of women curlers and I think that New coaching (read 4 years) strong mentorship (read Zarkova) and improved chemistry (read friendship) is stepping up the Russian game. They are catching on that fun is a big factor in our beloved sport.
Summary: I see the leadership of a Skip here - being more of an impact than the leadership of a coach. Zharkova vs Andrianova.

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On March 15th M.L., the Supreme Champion, suggested that this

event breaks down into two groups of 3 teams each.

I would suggest instead the following break down may be more

accurate:


Group 1. Homan & Co.

Group 2. The Field

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On March 15th M.L., the Supreme Champion, suggested that this

event breaks down into two groups of 3 teams each.

I would suggest instead the following break down may be more

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Group 1. Homan & Co.

Group 2. The Field

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Indeed Homan may be maturing into a world & Olympic champion = but you still have to do it ON THE ICE. She was pressed to the limit by Amazing 54 yr old Englot in the Canadian final.

Don't underestimate Princess Eve. She doesn't have quite the team that Homan or Paetz possess - BUT she knows exactly how to feed off her team's weaknesses - letting other teams accumulate rocks in the rings - so Eve can bang off virtually anything available. That's her game, her legacy and she's still pretty good at it. Look at Emma to dwarf Anna by at least 10 to 12 pts in their head to head but I still maintain Eve will take advantage of the deficiency.
As for Paetz - she schmiced legendary Jennifer Jones in her prior world appearance (as a young rookie). Jones was left stunned, broken & confused after Paetz whipped her 3 consecutive times to win her gold medal.

But yeah, Homan has quietly increased her mental strength to compliment her total on-ice game. Sneering and withdrawal, as Raytch found out were no real substitute for REAL MENTAL STRENGTH. That's what the greats all had - Jones, Coco, Sandra Schmirler, Gustafson, Norberg, etc.

Combined with maturity (as most of the team members approach 30) Homan is the team to beat. But I guess event organizers decided to let the games go on - rather than mailing Team Homan their gold medals!

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I don't think anyone was planning to cede this title to Homan right off the bat. While the men's side of things looks like Edin and a bunch of Canadians battling for king of the hill, World's for the women could be a total free-for-all. I mean even Kubeskova has quietly been having a heck of a season, but my money would be on Hasselborg stepping up for this. After that Euros loss this team seems even more focused, and heck, they were the ones who kept Homan from a Junior title back in 2010.

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The ice certainly looks... interesting.
The white paint is separating, making it look like cracks in the ice...

It's curious that the blue & red paint isn't separating - only the white.

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Wow,weird draw 1

China got crushed, did not see that coming

Switzerland got a huge lead then almost gave it up

Scotland got a lead than did I've it up twice and now has to steal to win


Sweden got a routine win over italy

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Scotland steal the win. Up and down game. Scotland really struggled heavily and in the end they got away with one. 3 bad misses on last rock doubles by roth gave it to them. To Eves credit she made 3 good shots with her last 3. She manufactured the steal for the win by herself

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canada beats germany.

every time i watch them though i get so frustrated. they had opportunities to draw and put ral pressure on canada and instead they would play a hit.

they dont seem to be progressing at all as far as strategy goes.

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canada beats germany.

every time i watch them though i get so frustrated. they had opportunities to draw and put ral pressure on canada and instead they would play a hit.

they dont seem to be progressing at all as far as strategy goes.

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