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11-18-18 08:27PM
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Red Deer Curling classic

so who knows the story for this? Posted on facebook by The Curling News.

The Team of Jamie Koe, Ryan Fry, Chris Schille and DJ Kidby has been ejected from the Red Deer Curling Classic due to unsportsman like behavior, forfeiting their remaining game.

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After a Twitter search about this, I found this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3QHqY8gEIg

skip ahead to about 11:47.

This is a livestream camera feed from the event, and at that time stamp you can hear someone telling someone else about what happened with this the day before.

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Interesting. Thanks

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After a Twitter search about this, I found this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3QHqY8gEIg

skip ahead to about 11:47.

This is a livestream camera feed from the event, and at that time stamp you can hear someone telling someone else about what happened with this the day before.

http://www.curlingzone.com/showthread.php?s=&goto=newpost&threadid=12778&tp=#1



Also, if you go a little further (21:05) the announcer says more (opening game statements)


The team drank the beer, did some shots, then headed to the game drunker than skunks.

Kicked rocks, threw the brooms and became so obnoxious, other teams said they would boycott this event if
team Koe ever showed up again.

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Interesting chatter about Ryan Fry...but I don’t think Jacobs could dump him at this point or can he?

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https://www.reddeeradvocate.com/spo...urling-classic/

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Interesting chatter about Ryan Fry...but I don’t think Jacobs could dump him at this point or can he?


Jacobs doesn't want to lose any sponsors. The article said Jacobs phoned the Red Deer club and apologized. I'm shocked that Ryan Fry would behave like this. Jamie Koe is famous for this. He drinks far too much and treats these outings as "lets get drunk". He's an embarrassment to his family, his team(s) and curlers in general.

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Fry has a history of doing dumb things. A similar incident involving him happened a few years back when playing for Stoughton.

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CBC

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Jacobs doesn't want to lose any sponsors. The article said Jacobs phoned the Red Deer club and apologized. I'm shocked that Ryan Fry would behave like this. Jamie Koe is famous for this. He drinks far too much and treats these outings as "lets get drunk". He's an embarrassment to his family, his team(s) and curlers in general.



Yep Jamie is a known partier. The night before the mixed finals when NWT had qualified and had a chance to bring home the first National championship, Jamie had a bit too much of a good time the night before. Needless to say they lost.

Perhaps the team treated this like a regular men's club bonspiel...however there are implications now for at least one of the team - Ryan Fry. At the last Grand Slam, Jacobs was barely talking to Fry. This won't help.

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When Jamie added Schille to his team I was disappointed. One of the low points in Saskatchewan curling was when both he and Virtue represented Saskatchewan at the Brier. I'm pretty sure Red Deer is not the first curling club to suffer damage from a team he has been on.

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Interesting chatter about Ryan Fry...but I don’t think Jacobs could dump him at this point or can he?


Perhaps Gushue had a similar reason for dumping Fry. Not the first time Fry has embarrassed himself including at national events.

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Glad to see that the bonspiel organizers had the fortitude to expel the team. Based on previous discussions it does seem that excessive drinking is common with Koe and the other 2 have been known to be quote “jerks”.
For all you youngsters out there remember, being a good/famous curler doesn’t mean you are a good person. Let’ s put our praise and respect to those who play the game with integrity.

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I can link to some of same culprits urinating in curling bags while wholly loaded in a Manitoba event. Lost respect back in that day. Never forgot. Thought they may have recovered but clearly not. such disgusting behavior and denial about alcoholism.

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The apologies are all over the social media now. However, maybe they needed this wake up call. In the past drunken antics were brushed off with a laugh...not so much anymore especially when other players are affected by that behavior.

Get drunk but stay in your hotel room or the bar, leave everyone else alone.

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seems it was all Fry's fault......

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/...ref=ca-homepage

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lets see

arrive at 11 am and 4 guys drink 10 beer each then do 4 shots each

then get cut off - maybe fire the server , bartender, and manager

apparently red deer liquor inspectors are as useless as manitobas loser inspectors - where many get killed by drunks EVERY year - but never any charges or licence suspensions
for over serving.....

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https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/...drunk-1.4910869


What Bottcher paid a team to withdraw? What a debacle. Yes the bar staff over served team Koe. What are the rules in AB?

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lets see

arrive at 11 am and 4 guys drink 10 beer each then do 4 shots each

then get cut off - maybe fire the server , bartender, and manager

apparently red deer liquor inspectors are as useless as manitobas loser inspectors - where many get killed by drunks EVERY year - but never any charges or licence suspensions
for over serving.....



This is the problem with this days society. Always looking to blame others. These are 40 year old men. They are the only ones that should be responsible for their actions. A bar is in business to serve alcohol, there would be none open if they cut off people at 3 beers.

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This is the problem with this days society. Always looking to blame others. These are 40 year old men. They are the only ones that should be responsible for their actions. A bar is in business to serve alcohol, there would be none open if they cut off people at 3 beers.




Exactly, no one will take blame for their own actions anymore.

To even come up with such a scenario.

There would never be bars making a profit anywhere if that happened and I did not read anywhere, where they were forced to drink.

It is pretty evident that Fry was probably enjoying a spiel that was not so competitive, along with the rest of the team. A kind of break for Fry.

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il remember that when some one on crack or meth slits your kids throats -

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grow up - they were WAY overserved BY THE CLUB THATS WHINING

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grow up - they were WAY overserved BY THE CLUB THATS WHINING


That’s a pretty big stretch Fresca. A legal bar serving legal alcohol to legal patrons. Patrons that harmed inanimate objects and hurt some feelings. Compared to an illegal druggy taking illegal drugs bought from an illegal supplier. Who are slitting throats. Not quite the same don’t you think?
Speaking of growing up, these guys are 40 years old.

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Can sort of understand how they were drunk for Hartung game but the Heidt game was next day at noon roughly, should have been ready for that. Don't agree with Fresca at all that it was the club's fault. Too bad it got to where it is. Even making news in U. S. Fry is the biggest name so gets biggest coverage.

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Fresca is legally (and mostly morally) correct.
There are legal cases chock full of examples of assigned responsibility to servers & their supervising facilities where the law has found guilty verdicts from over-serving and ignorance to common morality.

Fry and his friends were just pumped about being in a semi-competitive mid-season spiel and were blowing off steam. But they went too far. Way too far. Some of the product could have been secured prior to the start of action by stocking up at local outlet shops. Old Glenny Howard would call these "The Beer Store".

But the combination resulted in embarrassment to event organizers, fellow competitors, paid attendees, corporate sponsors and even local/regional media.

Jamie is just a guy who curls for fun and has an auto-spot out of the northern region. He's a known partier and I haven't read anywhere that he's caused a ruckus other than to his own liver.

Fry, on the other hand has a rather poor record for disorderly conduct, practical jokes that went too far and the odd case of abusive behaviour.

The CCA is probably considering what kind of punishment for the various curlers in this situation. I certainly wouldn't rule out suspensions from competitive curling or events for at least two months, perhaps even more.

Thank cripes the event organizers took things into their own hands before police had to be called in. The organizers actually did Fry & his new gang of partier a huge favour!

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Good on the committee for making the decision. If it had been a WCT slam event, they would still be trying to decide what to do and then end up doing nothing.

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