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02-21-18 03:56PM
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It should be noted that Koe has been playing consistently very well. In two loses the other skips pplayed well above their averages, including Shuster who opened with a four ender and then barely hung on to win. If Koe maintains their game, their odds are pretty good.

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It should be noted that Koe has been playing consistently very well. In two loses the other skips pplayed well above their averages, including Shuster who opened with a four ender and then barely hung on to win. If Koe maintains their game, their odds are pretty good.


Although I would generally agree with your comment regarding Koe and his team's play, I think there are shots in all the games that Team Koe has lost that first off, we don't expect him to miss and second, have contributed to the team losing the game, irrespective of how well the opposition curled.

The four ender that the Swiss scored in the first end was attributable to Hebert positioning his first two rocks poorly and then Koe throwing his last rock draw into the hack.

Koe has missed a number of slash doubles - almost all wide inturns and almost all narrow - that we are not used to him missing.

Even the USA game was more of a give away by Team Koe than being attributable to opposition good play. Don't misconstrue my comment - The USA team played very well, but if Canada doesn't mess up two or three shots in that game, the outcome is completely different.

If Koe is not at his normally outstanding best, and if the USA team plays like they did in the round robin game, I think the outcome will be undecided far later in the game than I will feel comfortable with...

I think if you sat down with Kevin over a beer and had a chat with him, he would make those same comments.

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You're making a couple of big assumptions there.

1. That Sweden gets past the tiebreak winner. Likely, but not guaranteed.

2. That Canada beats the US...there's already been one defeat there this Olympics, and Shuster's on a role...I fancy his chances.



I suspect given the playoff pressure and a chance to analyze how they lost to Shuster in the RR, they'll control possibly dominate the game next time out. I just don't see Shuster winning. Possible, yes, Likely, no. Koe is one of best clutch players in history.

It's a game though they are played for a reason. Congratulations to Team Shuster for being far, far better then most US champions and imprpving over several years.

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Interesting head to head for Smith and deCruz. Almost even, but Smith came out ahead in recent Euros.
Precision by Swiss in 9th. Not sure if Smith had a different shot. WTG Hop Suisse. Good Luck.

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Does anyone else see the Fred Flintstone in John Shuster?

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Does anyone else see the Fred Flintstone in John Shuster?


Nope.

Kennedy struggling early on.

Canada uses TO in the fifth.

Ed Luckovich on the U.S. stream makes it tough to stay awake.

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Does anyone else see the Fred Flintstone in John Shuster?


Nope.

Kennedy struggling early on.

Canada uses TO in the fifth.

Ed Luckovich on the U.S. stream makes it tough to stay awake.

Sweden spanking the Swiss.

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Tough close stone on stone game between US and Canada through 7.

In the 8th, Koe blinks first and gives up a steal of 2.

That could be huge.

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like the chinese water torture for koe team ....

slipping away slowly

easier to die with a 4 bullet

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like the chinese water torture for koe team ....

slipping away slowly

easier to die with a 4 bullet



Good analogy Grasshopper,

Captain America (plump-sized version) is putting it to Lex Luthor and Team Discussion Group.

Koe might be better off running out of time than having Capt. America execute him directly with a final rock double.

Koe has two massive blunders in 8 & 9 - soiling himself with 2 vicious misses in the 8th, including coming up 20 feet short on his draw to salvage a game-controlling point. Then in 9 he can't execute a fairly delicate (but makeable) tap for the deuce!

Doesn't matter that much - The Plump Boyz will get jmoidered by the bearded elf-man Nik in the final - but they'll get silver and restore American pride. Koe will be in a dog's breakfast battle for a bronze. Who woulda thunk it - Homan with 5 losses, Koe playing rough for bronze?

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Shuster played that game perfectly.

Kept it close, forced the miss potential shots, and got the critical misses, and then nails the final nose hit to win.

USA vs Sweden for the Gold

Canada vs. Switzerland for the Bronze

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Screw you ML, Shuster is in great shape and was the better man today.

Can't congratulate, only insult.

Played them shot for shot and Koe blinked first.

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Screw you ML, Shuster is in great shape and was the better man today.

Can't congratulate, only insult.

Played them shot for shot and Koe blinked first.



Congrats US. Good game against Team Canada. Gold medal game up next. I don't think you're gonna do it but silver is still good. I hope Canada beats Switz but they did lose to them in the RR. Anyway, good luck to all.

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Ehh, I'm okay with ML's approbation and prediction...

Since he can't get anything right, him calling a Sweden walkover all but drapes the gold onto Shuster's neck.

Admittedly, I don't actually believe that, but ML is right about as often as the watch my parents gave me for graduation 30 years ago, which is broken in a drawer as a keepsake...and since it was digital, it doesn't even have that "stopped watch right twice a day" thing going for it.

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Well I couldn't have called that more wrong. Kennedy was nowhere near his best, and Team U.S.A. outcurled us at every position. A disappointing Olympics for sure.

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Koe didn't just miss that draw in the 8th...he missed it by a mile. That looked like one of Homan's Olympic draws. I know the top teams from the rest of the world have caught up to Canada's top teams, but Canada's best skips should still be able to hit the house when needed.

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