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misty1
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i'm glad mike got through. much like chelsey he has lost so many big finals including 2 this year. i'll be pulling for him or epping to win the brier this year.
jason..i don't know about this whole format. seems insane to me that someone that didn't even make the playoffs in his provincials had a second chance to get in. he does still rely to much on the hitting game. however he does seem to have found a team that he gels with. he's bounced around teams a lot but i hope this one sticks together for a while
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| 03-03-18 09:54AM |
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Donr
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Actually, his weight was good enough to score - and thus win. I freeze-framed it when the rock stopped, and if they would have taken 6 inches less ice - or if the rock had curled 6 inches more - they would have won, as the weight would have caught a good part of the button.
Trouble with your theory is he took the ice he took and for that ice he was heavy by a tiny bit...you don't get to retake ice to match the weight thrown except in your theory..
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| 03-03-18 11:41AM |
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fresca
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was funny - the coach walked out and said - play either one - right away
i give jason 3 outa 4 on the hit -
draw to pot 1 outa 4
even if he was 3 ft lighter , sweeping would have kept it too straight i think ..
there were a couple of rocks that " spun in as they died " during game - this one didnt .........
very enjoyable game - was hoping for new blood - just got blood ...
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| 03-03-18 11:54AM |
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guido
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I’m wondering what Team Gunn’s thoughts on Jason’s first in the ee? What good would have come if he would have made what they called?
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| 03-03-18 02:01PM |
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nelsosi
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So pleased that McEwen won, so we don't have to endure Gunnlaugson's "i got this" attitude on the ice and the unnecessary weight he fires at everything.
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| 03-03-18 05:31PM |
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fresca
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those sharpened rocks seem to be making fast runs again.
takes them 3 days every major to get a handle
making good great players look average
seems unpredictable based on the line and weight
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| 03-03-18 09:00PM |
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Ajay
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Gushue just burned a rock. I'm waiting for the purists to flame "why was the rock not removed?"
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| 03-03-18 09:23PM |
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curlerbroad
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Poor BC...what happened, someone's wife went into labour so the guy left? Can't believe this team beat Jim Cotter
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| 03-03-18 09:32PM |
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fresca
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anyone hear what someone on gushues front end said before he laughed and said im on mic ?
not many sports that have a defect like a pic - would be like tom brady chuking a 60 yarder and someone in the stands putting a 22 cal bullet thru the ball
making 5 or ten trips to the brier seems to have a huge advantage
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| 03-03-18 09:51PM |
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jamcan
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Poor BC...what happened, someone's wife went into labour so the guy left? Can't believe this team beat Jim Cotter
Are you insinuating that a man's place isn't with his partner when they give birth to their child?
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| 03-03-18 09:53PM |
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Originally posted by curlerbroad
Poor BC...what happened, someone's wife went into labour so the guy left? Can't believe this team beat Jim Cotter
Time to change sheets for tv.
This exactly why the second Curl BC heard relegation was coming, they went out and hired John Morris, curler without boarders, to save them from being relegated. BC was teetering on relegation until Morris fly fished his way, a year later, after the curling season, to enough wins to prevent it.
BC will be lucky to get one or two wins.
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| 03-03-18 11:13PM |
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Well done NS if only to shut up Cheryl and her pro AB everything.
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| 03-04-18 01:24AM |
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On The Nose
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Originally posted by Donr
Trouble with your theory is he took the ice he took and for that ice he was heavy by a tiny bit...you don't get to retake ice to match the weight thrown except in your theory..
I don't think so. Less weight with that ice would have maybe got him to top 4 foot, not shot.
We could see that the ice was tricky for both teams (and the ice continued to be difficult to read on Saturday).
The weight was good on Jason's last - they either just took too much ice, or he threw it a bit wide.
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| 03-04-18 10:24AM |
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EPMD
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I enjoyed TSN's debate during the CAN-BC game about defense being too easy at this level. They debated whether or not the stones were too lively, which ruins the effectiveness of freezes and makes doubles, triples, and quadruple takeouts relatively simple. They didn't talk about tick shots, but I feel those can really suck the life out of an end as well.
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| 03-04-18 01:31PM |
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jamcan
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Originally posted by EPMD
I enjoyed TSN's debate during the CAN-BC game about defense being too easy at this level. They debated whether or not the stones were too lively, which ruins the effectiveness of freezes and makes doubles, triples, and quadruple takeouts relatively simple. They didn't talk about tick shots, but I feel those can really suck the life out of an end as well.
The problem with that is tv has created the demand for constant big shots to satisfy audiences with no patience and short attention spans.
Plus, by widening the striking bands to club standards and reducing the amount of dusting a stone gets (both of which will reduce the liveliness of rocks), you'll suddenly see these so called top players looking very ordinary. Why? Because you took away playing field advantages you don't have at 99% of regular events held in clubs.
Sweeping? Well they still allow snowplowing and dumping so taking away the evil material really hasn't changed much, has it?
And since the CCA and WCT don't want to narrow the gap between the alleged tiers of competitive play (they want their pretty poster boys/girls with crossed arms, pouty face poses, not Ed Werenich with a dangling toothpick) it ain't happening folks.
Which is a shame because it's rare to watch a game with nail biting drama. It's like basketball and an endless parade of slam dunks. Fun to see but eventually boring as there's no build-up, no anticipation.
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| 03-04-18 01:36PM |
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Re: Announcers
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How many more mornings on mute button?
It's all of them. Someone at the network MUST tell them less is more. I can't count how many times all of them have rattled on incessantly listening to their own voices, playing with the teleprompter OVER TOP of the players discussing their shots. After all the babbling Russ says hey Cheryl what was the call there I missed it? Shut up and listen so we can all hear the shot, then second guess them all you want. Please.
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| 03-04-18 01:52PM |
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misty1
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epping really has to do something about his tendency to choke leads away.up 5-1 and 7-3 and he ended up having to play a tap in an extra end for the win. that's just not okay.
like i said, i don't know what the hell happened to him but in the last year or so he's just become a real head case. he used to be a great front runner, up there with the likes of jacobs and mcewen in terms of being hard to come back on. now he just melts down and can't make a thing when he's ahead.
the end of that nova scotia/alberta game was interesting to say the least. murphy very nearly blew it on his last in 10. he's lucky bottcher jammed that shot for 2 in 9 or he'd have lost. bottcher..his record at the brier now is 3-9. i know it's only 1 game here but i maintain that he needs to get rid of moulding. when things get tense moulding breaks down. he's just an extremely unreliable third. and i don't really know what the hell rus and cheryl were talking about in regard to him being clam and reigning brendan in. if anything brendan is the calm one who has to reign darren in. darren is a firecracker , he is a calming force nor a voice of reason to no one.
reid nearly gave the game away in 10. how those sweepers got his draw as far as they did is beyond me.
overall the first day has definitely not been short on drama. been exciting , you can't say it hasn't
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| 03-04-18 01:56PM |
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misty1
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Originally posted by EPMD
I enjoyed TSN's debate during the CAN-BC game about defense being too easy at this level. They debated whether or not the stones were too lively, which ruins the effectiveness of freezes and makes doubles, triples, and quadruple takeouts relatively simple. They didn't talk about tick shots, but I feel those can really suck the life out of an end as well.
agree with you and them. defense is just way to easy at this point. and teams are leaning on it more and more. look at the BC game yesterday. 3 of the first 5 ends blanked. it's just to easy for teams who get a lead to defend.
it gets boring to watch the same formula of team A scoring multiples then just hitting everything in sight. teams just go all out defense earlier and it takes the fun out of the game. there was no atmosphere at all in the gushue/geall game after that 2nd end.
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| 03-04-18 03:05PM |
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curlerbroad
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epping really has to do something about his tendency to choke leads away.up 5-1 and 7-3 and he ended up having to play a tap in an extra end for the win. that's just not okay.
like i said, i don't know what the hell happened to him but in the last year or so he's just become a real head case. he used to be a great front runner, up there with the likes of jacobs and mcewen in terms of being hard to come back on. now he just melts down and can't make a thing when he's ahead.
the end of that nova scotia/alberta game was interesting to say the least. murphy very nearly blew it on his last in 10. he's lucky bottcher jammed that shot for 2 in 9 or he'd have lost. bottcher..his record at the brier now is 3-9. i know it's only 1 game here but i maintain that he needs to get rid of moulding. when things get tense moulding breaks down. he's just an extremely unreliable third. and i don't really know what the hell rus and cheryl were talking about in regard to him being clam and reigning brendan in. if anything brendan is the calm one who has to reign darren in. darren is a firecracker , he is a calming force nor a voice of reason to no one.
reid nearly gave the game away in 10. how those sweepers got his draw as far as they did is beyond me.
overall the first day has definitely not been short on drama. been exciting , you can't say it hasn't
What Cheryl & Russ think Moulding is cool & calm? I guess Chryls strong AB bias is fogging up her glasses. Maybe Bottcher can talk Kennedy out of his break.
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| 03-04-18 03:33PM |
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misty1
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What Cheryl & Russ think Moulding is cool & calm? I guess Chryls strong AB bias is fogging up her glasses. Maybe Bottcher can talk Kennedy out of his break.
it's kind of funny when i do listen to them sometimes. how anyone could think darren moulding is a voice of reason is just beyond me. brendan may not have been around as long but he is far more mature and sensible than darren ever was
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| 03-04-18 05:02PM |
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Moulding & Bottcher will be OK. They're young bucks, finding their way in a man's game. Mostly even keel, the thing that hurts them is rather abrupt decision-making & not enough completed shots.
Obviously they wouldn't be here if Koe had competed for the Alberta title.
I suspect they'll be back at this thing a few more times - at least!
As for misty's comments about Epping & Reid -
1. Epping has really never broken thru - he's here because Glenn Howard has hit the end of the trail. But I don't think he's a complete choke artist. He'll find a way to rally.
2. Reid is very good. Fortunate to have the best 3rd in this event in Giant Moskowy. Great brushers and superb team attitude. Reid will have to crash to earth for this group to miss the semi-finals.
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| 03-04-18 07:58PM |
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fresca
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heres a thought -instead of criticizing another poster's opinion on who is best third - add something new
i kinda like kennedy and fry and oskar and a few others , but its a team game so usually i avoid saying whose best - it changes every week
last week tyler was probably best
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epping really has to do something about his tendency to choke leads away.up 5-1 and 7-3 and he ended up having to play a tap in an extra end for the win. that's just not okay.
like i said, i don't know what the hell happened to him but in the last year or so he's just become a real head case. he used to be a great front runner, up there with the likes of jacobs and mcewen in terms of being hard to come back on. now he just melts down and can't make a thing when he's ahead.
If Epping is the best ON can send to the Brier, then competitive curling in Ontario is in serious trouble,
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