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05-16-18 09:33PM
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Finally, A BC Curling Tour...

Yup, Curl BC made the formal announcement about 2 months ago and yesterday launched its Tour webpage for the inaugural season of the BC Men's And Women's Curling Tours! Only about 15 years behind the rest of the country, but what the hell. Better late than never, eh?

Except...except...two months after the tour announcement there is only a list of 5 confirmed Men's events (a possible 6th in Kelowna is shown only vaguely as TBA), a team registration page and absolutely no information on event criteria or the points system.

You'd think that within two months we'd have some more info than this. But, if you're an interested team I suggest you email (as I did) Tour Coordinator Daniel Wenzek at juniortour@curlbc.ca with your many questions.

And if you get an answer, post them here.

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so I got my reply from Tour Coordinator Daniel Wenzek.

When is BC Tour, not a BC Tour?

When you simply cut and paste the CTRS event criteria and points system on your website instead of actually a format tailored to BC regional realities and needs.

sigh. opportunity missed.

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Want an analysis of the BC Curling Tours and why Curl BC is on the wrong track? Read it here:
https://therockstopshere.wordpress.com/

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My biggest concern with the tour is the playing in a minimum of 4 events to qualify for the two berths. This is especially worrisome if they are enforcing the minimum of 12 men's teams. Last year there were only three BC events that got to the 12 team minimum. Vernon went with 8 and Kamloops was cancelled after they got 9, and then we all bailed to Alberta events that handed out points. There are currently 6 events on the BC Tour schedule. Let's say we can play in four of these, so we register for those four. If one of those spiels doesn't hit the 12 teams, then we don't qualify for the minimum four events. The likely ones to not reach 12 teams are Vernon and Abbotsford. Both events have minimal prize money, meaning you aren't attracting out of province teams. Both events are on the same weekend as 3 other events, further stopping out of province teams for heading out here.

I asked Dan about it a while ago, and he said that the CTRS changed to 8 teams, so all should be fine. Maybe, but if you are trying to start/grow a BC tour, maybe take out the number of teams required. You can still use the CTRS points calculation if you want, just adjust it to 6 teams if that's all that show up. If there are 6 teams that go to all the spiels, but none of them count, why punish them for playing in the events by not granting spots? The 2 spots would then go to the open qualifier.

I know they are trying to promote teams from playing in more events, but if a team plays in three events, and wins them all, are you going to deny them a spot at provincials because they didn't register for a 4th event? In baseball there are a minimum number of at bats required to get the batting title. If a player is leading the league in batting average, but hasn't reached the number of at bats, MLB will calculate that player's average by giving him an out for the remaining number of at bats to meet the minimum. If he is still the leader after this, he gets the title.

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why does everyone automatically think when a new tour/event is put in place it has to cater specifically to their needs?

There has to be a starting point somewhere folks for a first time tour and it can be modified year over year......let's give it a chance before we don't even know it has to be changed!

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why does everyone automatically think when a new tour/event is put in place it has to cater specifically to their needs?




Obviously, Steve hasn't read any of the BC Tour rules. If he had he would know that it is simply the cutting and pasting of the CTRS rules and Points system and laughingly rebranding it as the BC Tour.

Its just a lazy, sneaky, underhanded effort by Curl BC to give two more berths to teams on the CTRS. The folks in charge should have just been honest and gave those berths to the CTRS.

This 'tour' does nothing to aid spiels and their host clubs in our province. Just ask Nelson, Cranbrook or Quesnel.

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