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guido
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possibilities for Martin:

Virtue for the trials.
Walchuk makes one last run.
Mark Johnson plays for a year.
MacDonald
Lures Simmons

Possibilities for Morris:
Make his own team with 3 youngsters
Joins Koe
Goes to Ont. but joins with his old 3rd Frans. (2nd to howard this year)
Takes a year off. moves to Ont. and joins with Frans, Laing, Savill after Howard amd Middaugh announce their retirement.

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Amidst all this wild speculation, one thing is certain-it must have gotten pretty bad between M&M for this to happen.

Many teams would kill to have the 'off year' these guys had. And no one in their right mind walks away from a trials berth. Politically correct comments on the CCA site aside, when the real story sees light (as it usually does after one of the parties has a few wobbly pops) this was probably a personality clash.

Martin will have his pick of players, they're too many to even venture a guess. But its a safe bet his deal is already done and will be announced Friday-if not leaked out before then.

Morris will also land nicely and likely on a team with at least a pre-trials berth.



well apparently someone already has

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possibilities for Martin:

Virtue for the trials.
Walchuk makes one last run.
Mark Johnson plays for a year.
MacDonald
Lures Simmons

Possibilities for Morris:
Make his own team with 3 youngsters
Joins Koe
Goes to Ont. but joins with his old 3rd Frans. (2nd to howard this year)
Takes a year off. moves to Ont. and joins with Frans, Laing, Savill after Howard amd Middaugh announce their retirement.



I dont know if, after all the crap he went through and criticism he suffered if Brock would leave his team and go back to Alberta even if it is to curl with Kevin.

I wonder if he might give Charley Thomas a thought

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How about bringing Donnie "Plenty of weight!" B. back to throw lead and hold the broom for Kevin?

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Hopin for Donny Walchuk.. Thats unlikely but would be awesome to watch. Might even cheer for Martin again! #perfectslide #textbook

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Hard to imagine Charley Thomas leaving his current situation, though I suppose it is possible.

Also would have to think Laing is planning a Manitoba move after this season, so the thought of Morris taking over that team also seems a bit unlikely.

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Hard to imagine Charley Thomas leaving his current situation, though I suppose it is possible.

Also would have to think Laing is planning a Manitoba move after this season, so the thought of Morris taking over that team also seems a bit unlikely.



Or is she moving to Ont.

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There will be a lot of speculation around the breakup, but I’m sure it will all be fully explained on Friday, as both parties will enlighten us on what everyone is doing next season.

I would think Kevin has all of the contacts in the world at the Saville, as anyone who is anyone plays there at some point… so he already knows who will join him. Don’t be surprised if he goes to youth… someone like Brendon who is already close because of the university team connection with Kev’s son.

I think having a third who isn’t from the same club has proven a hardship… so I can’t imagine Kevin bringing in someone from out of prov… or even from another area. I think any young curler would be stupid not to accept a role on the team considering it will be very short-term and will end after the Olympics.

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Bottcher at this time is not at the level Kevin would need and demand. He may get there but definitely not there now. This is most likely Kevin's last kick at the can and he'll go with someone who has played at the very top level before and is most likely still playing at that level.

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Mark Nichols would be a great addition at third for Martin. But I think Mark is too nice a guy to pull the pin on Stoughton. Kevin Folk now lives in Alberta.

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fifth for howard, they win everything, glenn retires and he plays third for wayne, doughtfull but would be a great team

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depending upon what happens friday this has got to be the bottom of the barrel for this gold medal crapola

hopefully somebody that qualified for the roar or the pretrials in the past two years doesnt get punted because john isnt happy playing with a top skip , top 5 FOR SURE, .... the best 2 nd and top 5 lead ... and i would put john in top 5 thirds - on a good day no one is better than these 4 - applies to howard team too .. stoughton , koe, gushue, epping, jacobs too


i doubt that john can better his chances at the podium no matter what he does - if he replaces someone that deserves to be at the trials i will attend and boo loudly - sadly im guessing this will be announced tommorrow - thou im hoping he replaces someone that is retiring for personal reasons - or he is

i predict karrick gets the call

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my prediction? someone young enough for Martin to control, willing to follow his rules and schedule, but can still throw with the best of them. Much like Hebert, Kennedy and Morris were when he picked them up. Not likely that any of the big boys who already have a spot tied up will leave their teams so. . .
Bottcher -- Kevin is very familiar with him and he has a ton of experience at high end competitions being a world junior and university champion
Thomas -- same kind of experience as Bottcher but not quite as young
Virtue -- also experienced at world and Brier level competion with an incredible drive to succeed against all odds

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If I were Pat Simmons, I'd start looking at houses back in Sask. John would b a perfect fit on that team. Koe would become the favourites at the trials.


Morris to Koe's Rink ..an upgrade

Mark Nichols to play third for Martin
His Hitting and Run Back talent is a waste at Lead with Stoughton

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Morris to Koe's Rink ..an upgrade

Mark Nichols to play third for Martin
His Hitting and Run Back talent is a waste at Lead with Stoughton



Mark is not leaving Jeff. He's not the kind of guy to leave Jeff stranded like that

what a stupid suggestion to make

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I think having a third who isn’t from the same club has proven a hardship… so I can’t imagine Kevin bringing in someone from out of prov… or even from another area. I think any young curler would be stupid not to accept a role on the team considering it will be very short-term and will end after the Olympics.



Very few of the top teams all play at the same club on a regular basis. They get their practice at spiels not by playing in a club league.

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There is no chance Savill and Laing would ever play with Morris again. They don't get along anymore, and it's been that way for a long time.

When Morris was drinking in the Patch at the Brier this year he was heard saying he was leaving Martin to move to BC. This has been confirmed by a few people. He didn't mention any names or curling at all, just that he was moving. Whether this was a joke, drunken talk, or truth remains to be seen.

Ferbey and Martin definitely don't get along because Martin demoted Ferbey way back when. Although Nedohin and Ferbey played together for a long time, there isn't the same animosity between Kevin and Dave. Even before Morris left, Dave had said he was stepping back to let Heather make a run at the Olympics.

Richard Hart has said it doesn't make sense for him to play again. The time and physical commitment don't fit into his lifestyle at this moment.

In my opinion, I don't see anyone with a spot in the trials jumping ship. This eliminates Mark Nichols, which was really the only person of the five teams that would make any sense to leave. Him and his wife just moved to Manitoba, and I don't see them moving again. Yes I understand the residency rules, but if Mark burns this bridge with Jeff, he doesn't have a spot there again.

It kind of makes sense for Morris to join Epping. They recently kicked off Scott Howard, and I don't know how permanent his replacement is. The issue here is I don't see Epping playing third, and Bailey is too old to be effective as a front end player for the trials.

I can see him joining Cotter, everybody drops down one, and Rick is now the 5th.

As always, ML's posts are ridiculous.


There is a good article written by Don Landry that gives the insight of Kennedy and includes some behind the scenes information, including asking Nedohin.

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Morris marches to his own beat...he has one Olympic gold. Who's to say he won't join any team & go and build his own team to emerge a contender for 2018? He will be the right age and after this Olympic run, there could be a few free agents around.

For all we know he might be wanting a break from the grind and skip the 15 hour flight to Sochi with its dubious food, facilities & security.

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There is a good article written by Don Landry that gives the insight of Kennedy and includes some behind the scenes information, including asking Nedohin.



Hope this link works http://t.co/kehQ2BKwVh
IF not go to yahoo sports or search Don Landry.

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wow just read it on CBC sports.....

it doesn't come as a complete surprise to me to see Johnny Mo depart from the martin rink, I had seen Kevin get interviewed by the Sports net folks he looked relaxed enough giving his opinions, BUT UNDER NEATH his cool composure I bet his wheels were already turning, no doubt he might of already been prepared for this to come about, now the question is ? HOW LONG WILL JOHN MORRIS be in the side lines before he packs his shoes and brush to move on? SOONER OR LATER, before the curling trials begin, or later . Whatever develops the announced" shakeup" doesn't come without some kind of "fallout' remembering the past ladies split when Cathy "O" was let go from her team....this is different no doubt perhaps the "chemistry" is gone with the Martin rink, and juggling the lineup can do amazing things.... less we know the better.

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There is no chance Savill and Laing would ever play with Morris again. They don't get along anymore, and it's been that way for a long time.

When Morris was drinking in the Patch at the Brier this year he was heard saying he was leaving Martin to move to BC. This has been confirmed by a few people. He didn't mention any names or curling at all, just that he was moving. Whether this was a joke, drunken talk, or truth remains to be seen.

Ferbey and Martin definitely don't get along because Martin demoted Ferbey way back when. Although Nedohin and Ferbey played together for a long time, there isn't the same animosity between Kevin and Dave. Even before Morris left, Dave had said he was stepping back to let Heather make a run at the Olympics.

Richard Hart has said it doesn't make sense for him to play again. The time and physical commitment don't fit into his lifestyle at this moment.

In my opinion, I don't see anyone with a spot in the trials jumping ship. This eliminates Mark Nichols, which was really the only person of the five teams that would make any sense to leave. Him and his wife just moved to Manitoba, and I don't see them moving again. Yes I understand the residency rules, but if Mark burns this bridge with Jeff, he doesn't have a spot there again.

It kind of makes sense for Morris to join Epping. They recently kicked off Scott Howard, and I don't know how permanent his replacement is. The issue here is I don't see Epping playing third, and Bailey is too old to be effective as a front end player for the trials.

I can see him joining Cotter, everybody drops down one, and Rick is now the 5th.

As always, ML's posts are ridiculous.


There is a good article written by Don Landry that gives the insight of Kennedy and includes some behind the scenes information, including asking Nedohin.



If Morris really is moving to BC and lets say he does end up joining Jim cotter...does anyone see any of the other teams being able to compete with that potential line up? ..I do have to wonder though who Jim would move to 5th Tyrel or Rick? Rick has a really good draw game so I would guess Tyrel

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Suprised no one is expecting Morris to join up with Gushue just for the 1 season, possibly take over skipping and move Brad and Gallant down a spot.

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My speculation, Martin moves Kennedy to third and picks up Scott Pfiefer to play second. He's still competative and in shape. Morris joins Epping as skip, with everyone else moving down one. I think Bailey's got another quality season at front end in him if it's for the Olympics.

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Morris focuses all of his energy into preparing for a run at the Mixed Doubles birth in 2018.

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Suprised no one is expecting Morris to join up with Gushue just for the 1 season, possibly take over skipping and move Brad and Gallant down a spot.


I'm guessing Gushue has heard more than he ever wanted to of how the only reason they won their Olympic Gold was because Howard was virtual skip. If he gets a second chance he'll probably make sure he's the acknowledged leader. Wouldn't happen with Morris on the rink. He's still relatively young and if he can stay with the same players for a few years might get that chance.

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