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Cathy O and Crystal Webster teaming up

So apparently Cathy Overton Clapham will be Joining team Webster. She will be replacing Erin Carmody

Thoughts?

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Not really sure what to make of this myself. There is no question at all that Cathy is at her very best as a 3rd. However she is a vastly superior shot maker to crystal and I dont know how the partnership will work

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I knew Cathy would get back in the game after her team imploded before the season ended.

It was either going to be Sherry Middaugh (replacing JoJo Rizzo) or Webster.

Probably chose Webster as her team is much younger although Crystal is almost as old as Jennifer Jones.

Cathy had tremendous success helping one great glamour-curler become a national legend (Jones) so perhaps she'll inject some fire and savvy into Alberta's top glamour-curler.

Feel a bit bad for Erin Carmody. Wonder if her good buddy and fellow islander G.L. Ramsey will stay on board. Guess she'll have to in order to qualify!

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Oh Cathy, why won't you just go away!?! Off to manipulate some more young curlers. Hope these girls know what they are getting into or it will be quite the painful season....

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I wonder if Crystal Webster will be holding a press conference as the Saville Centre to explain the move???

I'm interested if this was something Webster conjured up (ie. cutting Carmody) or Carmody decided to bail?

Webster really didn't have a good season this year!

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So much for Cathy taking a year off and just occaaionnally sparing..

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Mmmm ... if Carmody was punted for Cathy O, wonder what her fans and her favourite Winnipeg scribe will say as one reflects back on the word war waged against Jennifer Jones.

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Lets see, get booted from the best team in ladies curling after losing a can final, then get booted by your young team WHEN they have a pre trial spot?

You want to wonder who the problem is?

Good luck team Webster you are going to need it!

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Lets see, get booted from the best team in ladies curling after losing a can final, then get booted by your young team WHEN they have a pre trial spot?

You want to wonder who the problem is?

Good luck team Webster you are going to need it!



She wasnt booted from her young team so I really dont get what your talking about

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She wasnt booted from her young team so I really dont get what your talking about




Really, her lead quits, the other 3 had an option to carry on with the pre trial spot, but knowing that the 2nd is going to continue to play with the lead, Cathy decides to "retire", which lasts exactly 2 months which is about a month more than prety much everyone figured.

Ahh why can't people leave the game gracefully.

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Really, her lead quits, the other 3 had an option to carry on with the pre trial spot, but knowing that the 2nd is going to continue to play with the lead, Cathy decides to "retire", which lasts exactly 2 months which is about a month more than prety much everyone figured.

Ahh why can't people leave the game gracefully.



you and i have extremely different definitions of being boot ed then dont we. Who the hell are you by the way to say when she should retire. If she still has a passion for the game then let her play


she also never sayed that she was retiring she said she wasnt sure what she was going to do

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Ahh why can't people leave the game gracefully.



Couldn't agree with you more! She has now stomped on the dreams of ANOTHER young curler who has worked hard to try and represent Canada at the olympics.

This is her 4th team since the 2009 trials..... wonder who the issue is.... must be the all other curlers she played with...

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Couldn't agree with you more! She has now stomped on the dreams of ANOTHER young curler who has worked hard to try and represent Canada at the olympics.

This is her 4th team since the 2009 trials..... wonder who the issue is.... must be the all other curlers she played with...



Its really f*cking amazing how people who know absolutley nothing about what truly went down here can come on and spew crap like this. For all we knew erin stepped down and cathy was called to take her place. Given the fact that this is Cathy joining crystal it can almost certainly be assumed that crystal is the one who reached out to her .

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A Ride to the Rings

Can't say I blame Cathy for hitchin' a ride to the rings with Webster.

Even at 44 Cathy can't get the taste of Team Jones deciding to evict her as their third 3 years back.

Webster is the last resort. A so-called glamour curler who hasn't won much on the cash circuit and has never repped her province, except as a spare when Shannon Kleibrink brought her into the Scott as team 5th.

In defense of Webster and Cathy O, there was no real success after Webster managed to convince the Island girls to move from PEI and join her in pursuit of curling's top titles. This year was worse than last and probably convinced Webster to pull the pin on Carmody and go to Plan B (Cathy O)

The good thing for Webster and Overton-Clapham is that no one will expect them to do much at the trials. Webster's performances in big games have been nothing short of putrid. Cathy O had a mutiny on the bounty in Manitoba, resulting in girls quitting and her pre-trials spot going poof. Cathy did admit she isn't much of a skip and the pressure had gotten to her.

If the missing elixir was Cathy O's fierce drive and determination to win, then there's nothing wrong with some new medicine being injected into one of Canada's most under-performing competitive teams.

It also puts another roadblock into Jennifer Jones Olympic dream as she knows Cathy O will curl like a twisted monkey in the round-robin game vs. JJ.

But can she do it in the rest of Team Webster's matches? Thats the key question!

Also don't like what has transpired with Carmody. Putting two plus years in with Webster and now THIS??? Of course, if it was Carmody's decision to back out, thats fine. But I suspect there was more to the plot than that. We may never know.

At this point I don't know what plans JJ has for boarding a fifth on her team. But if there was any street justice, I hope Erin Carmody garners much consideration. After the heroics Jones wreaked on Carmody's squad (O'Rourke, Carmody, GL Ramsey, Trish Affleck) and the miracle shot JJ exterminated the tremendous Jenn Hann it would be so gracious if Jones picked up either Hanna (now semi-retired I'm told) or Carmody to be her fifth player.

Anyways Jones plans are to win this thing and represent Canada at the Olympics. Cathy O's plans? More like laying a stomping on Jones and preventing JJ from getting to Soshi.

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It also puts another roadblock into Jennifer Jones Olympic dream as she knows Cathy O will curl like a twisted monkey in the round-robin game vs. JJ.



Anyways Jones plans are to win this thing and represent Canada at the Olympics. Cathy O's plans? More like laying a stomping on Jones and preventing JJ from getting to Soshi.



You have already assumed the Webster team with Cathy O will grab one of the 2 spots in the pretrials and get to Winnipeg.. At t his point that is far from a given its way less than 50/50 the new Webster team will make it out of Kitchener and get to Winnipeg

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I know people on here will be quick to blame cathy if team webster fails to make the trials but lets put something into perspective. Crystal webster is easily the most over rated skip in this country, possibly in curling right now. She has never won anything big nor has she done anything to justify the attention she gets and the expectations people have of her. She is not a good skip, she cant make the big saving shots. Cathy O can curl lights out and make a ton of shots but if Crystal cant close the deal or save the end it wont really matter and its the same for any third on this team.

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I know people on here will be quick to blame cathy if team webster fails to make the trials but lets put something into perspective. Crystal webster is easily the most over rated skip in this country, possibly in curling right now. She has never won anything big nor has she done anything to justify the attention she gets and the expectations people have of her. She is not a good skip, she cant make the big saving shots. Cathy O can curl lights out and make a ton of shots but if Crystal cant close the deal or save the end it wont really matter and its the same for any third on this team.


I think this pers must be from AB and has watched all of the teams... you are very accurate in your assessment and I don't think much will change if the team can't close the deal.

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I think this pers must be from AB and has watched all of the teams... you are very accurate in your assessment and I don't think much will change if the team can't close the deal.



This is sarcasm yes?

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Can't say I blame Cathy for hitchin' a ride to the rings with Webster.

Even at 44 Cathy can't get the taste of Team Jones deciding to evict her as their third 3 years back.

Webster is the last resort. A so-called glamour curler who hasn't won much on the cash circuit and has never repped her province, except as a spare when Shannon Kleibrink brought her into the Scott as team 5th.

In defense of Webster and Cathy O, there was no real success after Webster managed to convince the Island girls to move from PEI and join her in pursuit of curling's top titles. This year was worse than last and probably convinced Webster to pull the pin on Carmody and go to Plan B (Cathy O)

The good thing for Webster and Overton-Clapham is that no one will expect them to do much at the trials. Webster's performances in big games have been nothing short of putrid. Cathy O had a mutiny on the bounty in Manitoba, resulting in girls quitting and her pre-trials spot going poof. Cathy did admit she isn't much of a skip and the pressure had gotten to her.

If the missing elixir was Cathy O's fierce drive and determination to win, then there's nothing wrong with some new medicine being injected into one of Canada's most under-performing competitive teams.

It also puts another roadblock into Jennifer Jones Olympic dream as she knows Cathy O will curl like a twisted monkey in the round-robin game vs. JJ.

But can she do it in the rest of Team Webster's matches? Thats the key question!

Also don't like what has transpired with Carmody. Putting two plus years in with Webster and now THIS??? Of course, if it was Carmody's decision to back out, thats fine. But I suspect there was more to the plot than that. We may never know.

At this point I don't know what plans JJ has for boarding a fifth on her team. But if there was any street justice, I hope Erin Carmody garners much consideration. After the heroics Jones wreaked on Carmody's squad (O'Rourke, Carmody, GL Ramsey, Trish Affleck) and the miracle shot JJ exterminated the tremendous Jenn Hann it would be so gracious if Jones picked up either Hanna (now semi-retired I'm told) or Carmody to be her fifth player.

Anyways Jones plans are to win this thing and represent Canada at the Olympics. Cathy O's plans? More like laying a stomping on Jones and preventing JJ from getting to Soshi.



This reads as if Cathy O is the ONLY curler in the way of Jones getting to the Olympics.

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All I am seeing is a lot of negative towards Cathy O and Crystal Webster. Nothing has been said, to suggest Erin was kicked off the team or even left the team.

Who is to say Erin doesn't have a commitment issue for an event like the Pre-Trials and they have asked Cathy to step in and spare. Until Crystal or Erin make an announcement (should there be one), there is no reason to degrade any of those three players.

I will bring to your attention that Cathy filled in for Erin at the final WCT event in Grand Prairie and the team finished 3-2 in their pool. Maybe they felt Cathy was a good spare for their team, should they need one.

Time to grow up people and stop making ridiculous speculations about a rumor, that may not even be true. Some of you also need to get over the Jennifer Jones/Cathy O split. It was 3 curling seasons ago, why dwell on it?

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I know people on here will be quick to blame cathy if team webster fails to make the trials but lets put something into perspective. Crystal webster is easily the most over rated skip in this country, possibly in curling right now. She has never won anything big nor has she done anything to justify the attention she gets and the expectations people have of her. She is not a good skip, she cant make the big saving shots. Cathy O can curl lights out and make a ton of shots but if Crystal cant close the deal or save the end it wont really matter and its the same for any third on this team.


I also agree with this. You can have the best 3 curlers in the world throwing ahead of you, but if you can't make the shots when they count, you're done.
Can anyone list the wins that Webster has to her credit?? It will be a short one.
I don't think she has ever been in a provincial final, and has only made the playoffs a couple times.

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I also agree with this. You can have the best 3 curlers in the world throwing ahead of you, but if you can't make the shots when they count, you're done.
Can anyone list the wins that Webster has to her credit?? It will be a short one.
I don't think she has ever been in a provincial final, and has only made the playoffs a couple times.



She made it to a provincial final in 2000, but she was playing third for Cheryl Bernard at the time. She won the Alberta provincial juniors in 1994 as a skip. Other than that a couple of wins on the tour.

She did advance through the 2009 Olympic Pre-trials through the A-side. She beat out Amber Holland, Sherry Middaugh, Rachel Homan and Kelly Scott to get through.

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She made it to a provincial final in 2000, but she was playing third for Cheryl Bernard at the time. She won the Alberta provincial juniors in 1994 as a skip. Other than that a couple of wins on the tour.

She did advance through the 2009 Olympic Pre-trials through the A-side. She beat out Amber Holland, Sherry Middaugh, Rachel Homan and Kelly Scott to get through.



Pretty short list.
Going back to 1994, there is 50 teams from Alberta that should be ranked higher. But, I was only refering to her "recent" skipping "accomplishments". Overrated may be the correct term.

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saw on facebook that Erin said she was booted from the team.

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All I am seeing is a lot of negative towards Cathy O and Crystal Webster. Nothing has been said, to suggest Erin was kicked off the team or even left the team.

Who is to say Erin doesn't have a commitment issue for an event like the Pre-Trials and they have asked Cathy to step in and spare. Until Crystal or Erin make an announcement (should there be one), there is no reason to degrade any of those three players.

I will bring to your attention that Cathy filled in for Erin at the final WCT event in Grand Prairie and the team finished 3-2 in their pool. Maybe they felt Cathy was a good spare for their team, should they need one.

Time to grow up people and stop making ridiculous speculations about a rumor, that may not even be true. Some of you also need to get over the Jennifer Jones/Cathy O split. It was 3 curling seasons ago, why dwell on it?

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Too bad for Erin, maybe she will return to PEI where a good young talent might have a better opportunity of making the Scotties and one day the trials.

Webster still needs to get through the pre-trials first. Good luck! Maybe she and COC will be more compatible.

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