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11-11-17 07:21PM
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Tied stones

So they just said that Rocque and Middaugh finished up an end with a stone each equidistant from the pin, thus cancelling each other out. That’s the first time I’ve seen that happen, and I’m wondering if anyone else has seen it before. And has it ever happened that more than 2 stones tied?

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Re: Tied stones

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So they just said that Rocque and Middaugh finished up an end with a stone each equidistant from the pin, thus cancelling each other out. That’s the first time I’ve seen that happen, and I’m wondering if anyone else has seen it before. And has it ever happened that more than 2 stones tied?


New way of explaining a tied rock situation. Not only have I seen it before - at Briers, Consols & City Playdowns - I've actually done the measuring. Doesn't happen often because calibrations are pretty fine. Wonder how many times you can ask for the stick to go around before you have to declare?

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How did teams qualify for this spiel?

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CTRS points earned over the 1 or combined 2 years. The formula used was a huge secret, they never divulged. Ever.

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CTRS points earned over the 1 or combined 2 years. The formula used was a huge secret, they never divulged. Ever.


Only they did. Always.
http://www.curling.ca/team-canada/2...cation-process/

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2 most massive surprises at Trials - 1. Disappointing end for Kerri Einarson, 2. Inspiring performance by The Manitoba Fawns, Briane Meilleur

McCarville basically imposed her will on the fawns - making great key shots when required. Despite Krista's 3rd, Kendra Lilly taking a dump, Krista has the necessary experience and game strategy to subdue a game but under-powered group of fawns.

Meilleur still has a final chance to confront the winner of Tippin v Rocque this afternoon for the final Trials spot. I know how badly they want the shot - but frankly Meilleur is basically a great club team; they don't have the exacting rock positioning necessary - and they seem unable to generate key rolls or doubles when absolutely required - clearly demonstrated vs. McCarville.

But Tippin & Rocque aren't Krista McCarville. Tippin is basically a slightly older group of fawns than Meilleur. Rocque is around the same age but have been on the scene longer - they were dominant juniors and have a proven record stopping big name teams - on occasion!

Rocque is clearly a more precise and experienced skip than Bri Meilleur but the real surprise of the event has been the team chemistry of Meilleur - a first year team. The 3rd Brianne Knapp might be able to give Rocque's glamour-curler 3rd Laura Crocker a real run for their money - that's where the battle will go. If Crocker goes high - it will mean tougher shots for Meilleur and that's something she'll struggle with. She was struggling with basic shots vs. McCarville.

If she gets Tippin that's slightly better news. Meilleur already downed Tippin in the playoffs. . . . . . she won't be intimidated like she was against McCarville and probably vs. Rocque!

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how long as cotter been shooting 3rd rocks ?

any reason given for the change ?


at the risk of wineing

- biggest game of 10 day event is played at 7am ish to accomodate tv - in front of 10 live relatives .....

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did Darren moulding shave or is that kerry burtnyk playing third for botcher ?

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how long as cotter been shooting 3rd rocks ?

any reason given for the change ?


at the risk of wineing

- biggest game of 10 day event is played at 7am ish to accomodate tv - in front of 10 live relatives .....



I agree, TSN doesn't seem to understand scheduling very well. Morris switched positions after a few key losses. The switch seems to work for them.

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anyone have access to the tv ratings the last year - for slams etc ?

when they were a million per show we heard - must be 100,000 - 200,000 now ?

7900 hits on cz for the road to the roar - 300 since last night

use to get 20,000 plus hits

dont know any men that watch , my wife's friends - watch everything still - but they are 70+

someting isnt kosher ....

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9th ehd glen first
hit crotch , lie 5 and game over

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greg should have drawn - nose hit for 2

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Down 8-3 with two ends left and the hammer with a free guard zone. A team has never scored three and then stolen two to force an extra end? I think you need to play until the opposition runs you out of rocks.

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yay team Tippin...well played. None of the favourites made it through. Nice to see an under the radar team make it.

Saw Ali Flaxey & Eppings front end practicing at my club today. Meant to wish them luck but got involved in my Sunday morning game.

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yay team Tippin...well played. None of the favourites made it through. Nice to see an under the radar team make it.

Saw Ali Flaxey & Eppings front end practicing at my club today. Meant to wish them luck but got involved in my Sunday morning game.



Well I beg to differ. Team McCarville was the most storied team in the event (OK, Shannon K went to the Olympics but that was 400 yrs ago).
Krista is singlehandedly the best skip at the event. Her team let her down (particularly her 3rd) but when the going got tough she was making all the required shots.
Kerri has the most impact on tour but she couldn't put all the pieces together and succumbed rather easily after a decent round-robin.
Rocque has obvious issues at 3rd in the less than effective Laura Crocker.
Tippin and Meilleur would have been succulent fawns at the Olympic Trials. McCarville is probably a favourite now to make playoff round.

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How have any of you not noticed how incredibly, ****ing stupid this format is?

John Morris just got a spot with a 5-3 record. If Glen Howard loses the B final he finishes 7-2 without a spot. And Botcher will go with a 5-4 record.

This is why you go with a triple or double knockout format. Or at least a RR with a page playoff. This is bar none, the stupidest thing I have ever seen in a crucial playdown event. And if you dont think this is wrong, you're a ****i g moron.

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Originally posted by jamcan John Morris just got a spot with a 5-3 record. If Glen Howard loses the B final he finishes 7-2 without a spot. And Botcher will go with a 5-4 record. This is why you go with a triple or double knockout format. Or at least a RR with a page playoff. This is bar none, the stupidest thing I have ever seen in a crucial playdown event.
Thanks for the summary. Agreed. Needs a rewrite.

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stupid, stupid draw!

People must be all new or never curled before to set that draw up - even hard to follow.

Howard should never have been in that position.

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cant miss last three and 1/2 shots .... especially with a messy tenth end to boot

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Should rename this event 'The Great Screwing Over'

Hopefully the CCA at least treated Howard and Thomas to dinner and a movie first...

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all they had to do was score two in the tenth -

got messy and missed 4 or 5 shots because they kept getting harder

congrats to Botcher team - new blood ...

Howard will be winning for a long time methinks

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all they had to do was score two in the tenth -

got messy and missed 4 or 5 shots because they kept getting harder

congrats to Botcher team - new blood ...

Howard will be winning for a long time methinks



Guess Old Glenny got the "Full Einarson" tonite. Guy was on fire thru the playoff rounds, suffocating all comers - until his team unravelled in what should have been a typical winning deuce in 10.
As far as Einarson is concerned - she showed she's still not ready for prime-time; letting a fawn like Meilleur lead the way as far as Manitoba rinks are concerned.

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stupid, stupid draw!

People must be all new or never curled before to set that draw up - even hard to follow.

Howard should never have been in that position.



The Brier and Scotties are going to be pretty much the same. Two pools of 7 teams with a playoff. A team could go 6-0 in their pool and not even get a medal, while another team could go 3-3 and win the whole thing.

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I agree the pools are dumb all done to accommodate the 3 territories. Which Curling Canada had to do for gov't funding and other reasons I supposed.

However, Glen getting into that mess in the 10th was a bit shocking. I myself prefer a triple knockout - faster with no tiebreakers. I guess you could get a "weak" team sneaking through but that or a full round robin is better than was done here.

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