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Conduct of Steve Gould and Ryan Fry

The recent Alberta event was one of the greatest events I have ever been at. Great show put on for a first year spiel with great teams. However, guys like Steve Gould and Ryan Fry should be banned from it in the future and the WCT should take their teams points away and suspend them for a year.

It seems that after they got beat, they got drunk, puked on the clubs good furniture and then took their anger out on McAulley's team for no reason at all. They took the equipment bag and trashed it, smashing all the brooms, watches and everything else in it causing over a thousand dollars worth of damage. What they didn't realize was that the club has video cameras and everything was caught on tape.

What a way to reward hosts, volunteers and sponsors - we are going to lose all of our great events and no one will host new events if stuff like this is going to be condoned. This was a WCT sanctioned event and the WCT should do something. No other sport would allow this conduct of its athletes. Someone should talk to McAulley's team and get them to have the Brooks police charge these two guys.

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Can anyone confirm that this is true? Or just rumor?

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What the hell?!?

I really, really, really hope this is bad slander. But either way, this is just brutal.

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That makes me sick! those two are a total waste to the curling world, and i hope that the correct actions are taken and that something is done to those two people. this game is based on respect for individuals and goes on the honour system, well they threw that out the window just like they should be!

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To be quite honest I hope it's not true. If it was I would have thought we'd have heard about it from the tournament or papers

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If they really did trash Team McAulley's broombag, there should definatley be some kind of punishment, may it be a suspension or something else suitable.

The geting drunk after losing thing I can handle, I think everyone's been guilty of that at least once. But they should still be held accountable for their actions, drunk or sober.

Lets just hope this is a nasty rumour

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Have to agree with obsessivecurler - I hope this is just a nasty net rumour. However, if true then appropriate action must be taken. At a CCA event, these two would be subject to some sort of punishment. Juniors would be banned for this type of behaviour.

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I've been on the phone with the event, and a Players' Association source, and this appears to be blown out of proportion to extent. Some of the accusations are true, though Gould and Fry stepped up early the following day, and took responsibility, before fingers were even pointed.

They made amends to McAulay's team from what I've been told, and to the event, to an extent that the event will invite this team back again next season. They manned up for their mistakes, and the Players' Association will deal with the players in question, and sanction them privately as they see fit.

With all parties seemingly to have been compensated, let's move on from this and learn some valuable lessons. Many of us have been in this situation before where something stupid has happened, and the character of the person show's through in how they handle it.

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Guilty - even if ammends have been made. Walk in shame. The curling gods are frowning on you - and that will be your ultimate punishment. Start a 12 step program. Yesterday.

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Perhaps if anyone has any questions about Team Stoughton, they can send a note to the team at: http://www.teamjeffstoughton.com/blog/?p=5#respond

This may help clarify anything.

As a fan and long-time supporter of Team Stoughton, hearing about this is very disappointing and reflects poorly not only on Ryan and Steve but also on Rob and JEFF!

Jeff, would you like to clarify?

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I still think they should be punished in some fashion. Just because they were nice the next day doesn't excuse the action

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I totally agree,

Apologizing after the fact is to late.

It would be nice to have them banned from one or two future spiels. That kind of stuff is not needed to build the game of curling. Much to often you see curlers up in the bar very very drunk swearing and carrying on. Not the best way to promote your sport.

Banning them for a spiel or two would also put the onus on the skip or other team members to make sure people who are representing their team will act appropriately.

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IF the actions of messer's Gould and Fry are even close to what has been reported here (keep in mind the original poster did not have the gonads to use his(her?) real name) then this will be a good test of the authority and integrity of the WCT.

Obviously, these sorts of actions should result in a suspension and a fine, at the very least.

Alas, based on previous experience, a slap on the proverbial wrist will be all Mr. Boutlier and the boys will muster.

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Yes, an apology and an admission after they found out that they were caught on camera doesn't count for much - at that time it is just trying to prevent other consequences for childish acts.

How old are these guys anyhow - seven - or is that an insult to seven year olds.

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Yes, an apology and an admission after they found out that they were caught on camera doesn't count for much - at that time it is just trying to prevent other consequences for childish acts.

How old are these guys anyhow - seven - or is that an insult to seven year olds.

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After reading most of these posts, I felt compelled to reply. Steve and Ryan are very respected competitors amongst ALL the competitive curlers. They may have done something here I am sure they regret that probably was the result of poor descison making under the influence. This certainly would not excuse them. But after all they are human and make mistakes. When The REAL story comes out, if in fact if it ever does, I am sure it is not as nearly as elaborate as some of you on here have been making this incident out. I am sure an apology was accepted by all and ammendmants have been made. Let the curlers curl.

Jeff and his "TEAM STOUGHTON" have been all class for years, and I am sure Jeff will continue this trend with his current team.

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Since when was having a few beers a problem? Sure the line might have been crossed slightly but if people spent the kind of money at the bar after the games that these guys do, curling clubs wouldn't be in the financial state that they are. Slapping a fine or suspension on these guys would be sending the wrong message.

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Mr unregistered it dont matter how much these guys spend in the bar because i am sure it is not enough to replace the damage these morons cause when they are drunk.Give your head a shake if you think the amount of money they spend has anything to do with this you are as stupid as the rest of them.I myself enjoy a couple of dozen bevis after a tough loss but in no way does this entitle me to act like an *******.

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wow

It is amazing how out of control this has gotten. I will give you all the facts in order to try and shed some light on this bad situation. After losing the Quarter finals Steve and I had some drinks in the players lounge. We both did and said things we are not proud of. The fact about Greg's broom bag is the we kicked it several times thinking it was ours. In the morning we realized that it was not. We heard from Rob, who spent time with Greg's team that it was their broom bag. We then called the organizers, the sponsor and Bill who plays with Greg to try and do what we could to fix the problem we created. We replaced all the broken equipment by Monday evening.

The apparent damage done to the players lounge, the puking on sofa's and all other accusations are untrue. We feel awful for bringing Jeff and Rob into this situation and would like to publically apologize to all who was involved with organizing this first class event. For the team Stoughton fans we would also like to extend our sincerest apologies. We have learned from this and hope you will see this for what it is....a single act of stupidity.

I would also like to point out that there many rumours floating around about Steve and myself and think for the few of you who obviously have personal problems with us, to write lies without knowing the facts if poor judgement on your part.

If there are any questions that you would like answered please feel free to ask and I will give you an answer that is not full of lies. Again we are very sorry for causing these problems...thanks to the few of you for the kind words.



Ryan Fry

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I will be closing this thread. There is nothing good that can come of this thread, and the issues have been discussed. I have talked to both Team McAulay and the Event and they are both satisfied with how Fry and Gould have handled the situation, making up for their mistakes to them.

Gould and Fry don't need to be lectured on their stupidy, they know what they've done was a mistake, and have paid the price in public opinion on it already. None of the parties involved want to drag this through the mud to create a bigger black mark on the event or the Tour, and therefor I will be ending the discussions here.

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